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[SlinkyRedfoot]

lol you're reaching

Me?

lolz

No one considers Yadier Molina beyond reproach except for Cardinals fans.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Great job, again, picking what you want to hear.

Not nearly as impressive as your portrayal of a fanboy.

 

[jwolt92]

Not nearly as impressive as your portrayal of a fanboy.

How so? By admitting that there were probably players on the Cardinals roster that were more than likely juicing? How else would you explain Albert's drop in production? The only thing that I pointed out is that Molina's production only went up once the main cogs of the offense went away.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

"Yeah, but you're just looking at three thousand consecutive plate appearances; that's cherry picking!"

Too funny.

 

[jwolt92]

"I don't understand how a team works, so I only look at certain stats"

Too funny.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The only thing that I pointed out is that Molina's production only went up once the main cogs of the offense went away.

Molina's offensive production exploded in 2011. Pujols was still a Cardinal.

 

[jwolt92]

Molina's offensive production exploded in 2011. Pujols was still a Cardinal.

His best years were actually 2012 and 13..

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

"I don't understand how a team works, so I only look at certain stats"

Too funny.

You're suggesting that Molina decided to go from being a pretty shitty hitter to a slugger because the good hitters left his team, and then you're saying that I don't understand things?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

His best years were actually 2012 and 13..

Obfuscation. He exploded offensively in 2011.

 

[jwolt92]

You're suggesting that Molina decided to go from being a pretty shitty hitter to a slugger because the good hitters left his team, and saying that I don't understand things?

You're suggesting that because he wasn't the key piece on a team he put up lesser numbers he's a worse hitter? When did anyone say he was a "pretty shitty hitter"? Home runs and RBIs aren't the only stat to judge hitters on, in case you weren't aware.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

You're suggesting that because he wasn't the key piece on a team he put up lesser numbers he's a worse hitter?

No, I'm suggesting he took steroids. Are you ESL?

When did anyone say he was a "pretty shitty hitter"?

I did. From 2001-2010, in 3,000 PAs, he was a pretty shitty hitter.

Home runs and RBIs aren't the only stat to judge hitters on, in case you weren't aware.

HRs and RBIs? I haven't mentioned either one of those in this thread.

 

[jwolt92]

No, I'm suggesting he took steroids. Are you ESL?

Nothing actually points towards that.

I did. From 2001-2010, in 3,000 PAs, he was a pretty shitty hitter.

Well it would only be 2004 (his rookie year)- 2010 but congrats.. his oWAR spiked that year, but it's also not been his best season. So you're suggesting he's been on roids since then? Woudn't he continue to get better?

HRs and RBIs? I haven't mentioned either one of those in this thread.

That would be the only spike in his statistics. He wasn't much better of a hitter in anything else, so what would you be referring to? He's consistently been an average hitter, even for a catcher.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Nothing actually points towards that.

Well, except for a huge and sudden burst in power and spitting on umpires.

Earlier you said you'd guess that Carlos Santana is juicing. What in your opinion actually points towards that?

 

[jwolt92]

Well, except for a huge and sudden burst in power and spitting on umpires.

Earlier you said you'd guess that Carlos Santana is juicing. What in your opinion actually points towards that?[/QUOTE]

same as yours. No facts. Just throwing out guesses. I don't think Yadi is juicing and I don't think Santana is juicing. If you asked me who I thought was juicing in the last 10 years of the Cards history, I'd guess Albert and Holliday.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well it would only be 2004 (his rookie year)- 2010 but congrats..

That was 3,000 PAs. His rookie year only represented 150 of them. Stop acting as if that season skewed his numbers.

Throw his rookie season out, and his SLG% is the exact same .361 from 2005-2010.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

You're almost as good at objectivity as you are at using the quote button.

 

[jwolt92]

That was 3,000 PAs. His rookie year only represented 150 of them. Stop acting as if that season skewed his numbers.

Throw his rookie season out, and his SLG% is the exact same .361 from 2005-2010.

When did I say his rookie season skewed his stats? I just said that 2004 was his rookie season. I've said all along that he's been a team player, and from 2012 on, he's had to play a bigger role. Could he be juicing? Sure.

 

[jwolt92]

You're almost as good at objectivity as you are at using the quote button.

Epic comeback bro

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Epic comeback bro

You'd think it was fucking awesome if Molina'd said it.

 

[jwolt92]

You'd think it was fucking awesome if Molina'd said it.

Probably. Considering I'd put him maybe in my top 10 favorite Cardinals players ever, absolutely