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RaZon

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Would ya believe Don Hutson is at number 21 on the TD list and they played 12 game seasons back then. Wow!
 

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Dude, tell me how many days until the season starts, talk about riveting there it is.
Good idea I want to know. Southie is like EF Hutton, when he speaks people listen
 

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Would ya believe Don Hutson is at number 21 on the TD list and they played 12 game seasons back then. Wow!

How did you get your info before google?
 

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How did you get your info before google?

Like that question

I saw most of what I talk about, then the magazines and books. So Google does me no good.

60 years of experience so Google?????

Google...

USC all time 4x1 relay, using who is best for each leg.

Go ahead Google that.
 

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Would never think of Big Ben on the same level as Dan Marino, just seems wrong.
An easy check is where they ranked at the end of their careers, rather than now.

NFL Career Passing Touchdowns Leaders Through 1999 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Marino 420 and the next guy at 342 - Marino's total was 23% higher.

Today, Big Ben is #8, with 396, 185 behind Brady (who's also still playing). 32% lower.

On the other side of the coin, no active player is even in the top 30 in sacks.
 

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An easy check is where they ranked at the end of their careers, rather than now.

NFL Career Passing Touchdowns Leaders Through 1999 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Marino 420 and the next guy at 342 - Marino's total was 23% higher.

Today, Big Ben is #8, with 396, 185 behind Brady (who's also still playing). 32% lower.

On the other side of the coin, no active player is even in the top 30 in sacks.

I get that but as we know any QB playing today is facing far better athletes on the D than anything Marino experienced, we can't ignore that.
 

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Starting right now either talk the topic of the thread or you will be ignored, you need help.

Like that question

I saw most of what I talk about, then the magazines and books. So Google does me no good.

60 years of experience so Google?????

Google...

USC all time 4x1 relay, using who is best for each leg.

Go ahead Google that.

Thought I was on ignore. See, you can’t help yourself. It’s all about the attention, even if it’s negative.
 

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Thought I was on ignore. See, you can’t help yourself. It’s all about the attention, even if it’s negative.

Did ya miss......Like that question?

Now find that USC 4x1 tean Googlig, ya can't do it, so why the Google BS?
 

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Did ya miss......Like that question?

Now find that USC 4x1 tean Googlig, ya can't do it, so why the Google BS?

Ignore, remember
 

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I get that but as we know any QB playing today is facing far better athletes on the D than anything Marino experienced, we can't ignore that.

Yet the old timers were sacked far more often than current day QBs. Today's QBs have far better athletes protecting them and catching their passes as well. We've been down this road before. Better athletes on both sides of the ball cancel each other out and the rule changes that have all favored the offense have inflated the stats of current day QBs compared to QBs of old.
 

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Yet the old timers were sacked far more often than current day QBs. Today's QBs have far better athletes protecting them and catching their passes as well. We've been down this road before. Better athletes on both sides of the ball cancels each other out and the rule changes that have all favored the offense have inflated the stats of current day offensive players compared to QBs of old.

He doesn’t get it.....
 

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Yet the old timers were sacked far more often than current day QBs. Today's QBs have far better athletes protecting them and catching their passes as well. We've been down this road before. Better athletes on both sides of the ball cancels each other out and the rule changes that have all favored the offense have inflated the stats of current day offensive players compared to QBs of old.

So what do we do?
 
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