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Wilson has done what other QBs would not be able to do:

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That W still goes on Russ’ record.
You want to see exhibit A on why W-L record is basically meaningless? I am glad you wanted to. Here you go.....
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Plus Tebow like completion pct of 49.5%.

Most would agree Walker isn't the reason the Browns are 2-1 in his starts this season. Defense and running the ball.
 

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You want to see exhibit A on why W-L record is basically meaningless? I am glad you wanted to. Here you go.....
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Plus Tebow like completion pct of 49.5%.

Most would agree Walker isn't the reason the Browns are 2-1 in his starts this season. Defense and running the ball.

Comparing a career backup to Russ, who’s been to two Super Bowls? W-L record doesn’t mean much for career backups, but for dudes that have done it consistently throughout their career, it means something.
 

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Comparing a career backup to Russ, who’s been to two Super Bowls? W-L record doesn’t mean much for career backups, but for dudes that have done it consistently throughout their career, it means something.
The point is there are 22 starters on offense and defense.

And W-L record for a QB is pretty meaningless as the Walker analogy shows.
 

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Win/loss records don't matter for backups but they do for starter's.....I have heard it all now.
 

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Win/loss records don't matter for backups but they do for starter's.....I have heard it all now.

I didn’t say they don’t matter. If they didn’t matter, they wouldn’t be kept as a stat. I said it’s farcical to compare a career backup to a Super Bowl winning QB.
 

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I didn’t say they don’t matter. If they didn’t matter, they wouldn’t be kept as a stat. I said it’s farcical to compare a career backup to a Super Bowl winning QB.
Except, I never compared them? You said the win still goes on RW's record.

I simply pointed out PJ Walker's stats as why it is pointless to attribute W-L record solely to the QB.
 

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Win/loss records don't matter for backups but they do for starter's.....I have heard it all now.


Keondre Coburn has never lost to the Chiefs.

He also never played against them. ;)
 

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Speaking of Chiefs and W-L records, here’s my favorite Chiefs QB.

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KC should’ve stuck with him a little longer…
 

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Russ on pace for 33 TDs and 8 INTs but he fumbles at least once a game. yesterday twice once out of bound the other game KC a freebie at the end of the half
 

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My biggest issue with Russ is fumbling in crucial times and hanging onto the ball too long. He isn't the perfect QB but he is WAY better then last year and that is improvement. :)
 

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Win 4 straight and get the Broncos in the playoff conversation. The probably need to go at least 5-2 the rest of the way to have a shot.
 

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Being back in contention for the playoffs is great. Actually making the playoffs is gonna be very tough. Outside of maybe the Patriots, there really isn't an easy game on the schedule. However, not many would have predicted a victory against the Chiefs or winning on the road in Buffalo but here we are. Possible? Yes. Difficult? Quite. It's just nice to not be occupied with the upcoming draft at the mid point of the season for once.
 

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If this is cooking cancel my reservations.

Wait, weren't you treating? Don't leave me with the bill, you cheapskate!
 

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Wait, weren't you treating? Don't leave me with the bill, you cheapskate!
The number you have dialed has been changed, disconnected, or is no longer in service.
 

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Dang. He did us dirty, boys.
 

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It's definitely time to look at this thread again and laugh. Wilson isn't doing it pretty but it's hard to argue against him being a pretty effective QB this season. I am not worried about the yards. Jay Cutler and even Kyle Orton when he was here passed for a lot of yards. I like the TD to INT ratio and like that Wilson seems to be doing just enough to keep the offense moving. If you think about it as a fan, it's hard for us to watch this offense sometimes and not get stressed out. But it's got to be even more mindblowingly frustrating for opposing fans feeling like they're so close and RW somehow manages another 1st down.

Back when I started this thread I acknowledged the Broncos weren't necessarily losing games because of Wilson. My gripe then was his contract was and is on a level that warranted his play to elevate this team and it wasn't. I am not going to weigh in on the contract at this time, all I am going to say is that Wilson seems to really be growing into this offense and doing his part. It still isn't pretty but it won't need to be if the Broncos keep winning.
 

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It's definitely time to look at this thread again and laugh. Wilson isn't doing it pretty but it's hard to argue against him being a pretty effective QB this season. I am not worried about the yards. Jay Cutler and even Kyle Orton when he was here passed for a lot of yards. I like the TD to INT ratio and like that Wilson seems to be doing just enough to keep the offense moving. If you think about it as a fan, it's hard for us to watch this offense sometimes and not get stressed out. But it's got to be even more mindblowingly frustrating for opposing fans feeling like they're so close and RW somehow manages another 1st down.

Back when I started this thread I acknowledged the Broncos weren't necessarily losing games because of Wilson. My gripe then was his contract was and is on a level that warranted his play to elevate this team and it wasn't. I am not going to weigh in on the contract at this time, all I am going to say is that Wilson seems to really be growing into this offense and doing his part. It still isn't pretty but it won't need to be if the Broncos keep winning.

Stats are so secondary to winning. RW and the rest of the team are winning right now. Boom!
 

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Stats are so secondary to winning. RW and the rest of the team are winning right now. Boom!
If they're secondary, how do you gauge performance to maintain winning?
 
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