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Will AD want to be traded after this?

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  1. buckalis

    buckalis Active Member

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    Replacement or not, Russell is now is an All Star... No question he agrees to go to the Pels... his management is CAA remember? Same as Zion!

    No way the NETs keep Allen and bench him only to give breaths to AD... Allen woud then ask for a trade!
     



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    in fairness, Davis has not been dealt yet, and while there is a minuscule chance of it, if he does resign in New Orleans @buckalis will, deservedly so, look like a genius.

    While I think we all know that is highly unlikely to happen, the die has not been cast yet. We shall see.
     
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    It doesn't mean he wants to draft more than Zion this season... It means he wants to know before the draft if he has an empty (starting) roster spot or not... Obviously he doesn't when dealing with the NETs... which is extremely convenient for him. Deal done is different to the date contracts are done.
     
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    Yeah, I don't know if getting D-Lo in a sign and trade beats the Lakers or Knicks, but it damn sure puts them in the mix. Especially with how D-Lo has improved.
     
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    You have brought up many sign-and-trade hypotheticals but it rarely happens. You still think the Bucks are doing a sign-and-trade with Middleton, again, highly unlikely.
     
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    Especially after he met with Griffin and didn't back off of his trade demand. Griffin isn't stupid. If he thought there was a chance that he could convince AD to stay, he wouldn't be shopping him.
     
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    AD for DA Russell + J.Allen + one or two 2nd roster guys + 2 future picks, would be tempting for the Pels even if AD had never required a trade before... Especially after they got Zion...
    No question it's miles ahead than anything else that could be offered in the market...
     
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    What's the relevance between DA Russell and Zion being under the same management (CAA) who would love to pair them together, with the Bucks "helping" Khris to his chozen destination in case he doesn't agree to a "team friendly" deal other than you are stupid enough to confuse the two different?
     
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    For someone that keeps talking about "logic science" you sure are letting yourself get wrapped up in this affective fallacy.

    You keep attacking others based on nothing more than your gut feeling, and if anyone dares point out where you haven't been proven right and your guess is as good as anyone elses.

    You need to chill the fuck out. Reading through this thread I'm about tired of your bullshit @buckalis
     
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    Well for the fact they would have to be moved in sign-and trade deals. Cmon man you can't be this dumb. I would suggest you stop this little charade or you won't be here much longer.
     
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    Sooo... the method of "sign and trade" being common for different reasons, purposes and aims, makes you less stupid to compare the two... is this your answer?

    Why you brought this up then in a completely different subject? Just to divert it and proove yourself as stupid as you really are?
     
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    You need to throw in LeVert and if I'm the Pels, I'd insist on it. D'lo/LeVert/Allen +plus picks beats the Lakers offer and especially the Knicks offer. It also meets the qualifications Griffin said he wanted; an all star (D'Lo), a young player with all star potential (LeVert, who was playing like an all star before he got hurt last year), a solid piece in Allen and then the picks.

    If you're Brooklyn and you know you're getting Kyrie, I think you do that deal. It'd suck to lose LeVert because I think he's got a bright future but a Kyrie/AD combo should keep you in contention every year.
     
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    Sure... LeVert would be an extra bonus, but with Holliday and Zion in the starting roster, he would be the 6th man coming from bench on the Pelicans. I therefore believe that NETs need him more, but also that his inclusion wouldn't matter so much for Pelicans.
    Lets face it, a Russell, Holliday, Zion, Randle, Jarret starting lineup would be excellent as to start Zion's NBA career with much success... now if they can get Levert on top and have him and Wood coming from bench, the Pels won't even need any picks to draft for another three seasons.
     
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    If that was their team,

    Levert would probably start with Randle off the bench.

    Not enough shooting with Randle and Zion at 3-4
     
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    Playing Zion at 4, would be wrong in a league such as the NBA... NBA needs two guards, one on and another off the ball, that both can shoot but also read the game, playmake and pick and roll the ball with the bigs...

    Then a SF that is a real forward (not a guard) and can shoot, but also penetrate the opponent's defence as well on a "free" roll...

    Pelicans are traditionally a team playing two mobile "bigs" and Zion is a perfect SF for their (very good) coach...
     
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    Nah.

    I actually view Zion as a 4 in the modern NBA. The game is more perimeter oriented than ever and his skill set most closely reminds me of a much better scoring, more explosive version of Draymond Green.

    Draymond plays 4/5. While I would not recommend much 5 early on, 4 is his best spot unless both the 4 and 5 you pair him with can stretch the defense. Allen and Randle cannot do that well enough.

    The paint would always be extremely congested with that trio out there. Levert could open things up more.
     
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    No offence, but that's because you don't have the basketball knowledge I do, or their coach does...

    Green is a different case that applies on team with different roster like GSW are.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    That is absolutely hilarious.

    You don't know shit. Floor spacing is king in the modern NBA.
     
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    That is absolutely hilarious.

    You don't know shit. Floor spacing is king in the modern NBA.[/QUOTE]
    Floor spacing isn't necessarily only shoting 3s...It mainly is forcing the opponent's defence and particularly the bigs of the opponent to expand towards the perimeter... In other words, to take them out and avoid double teaming on your bigs when they attack the rim.
     
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    Floor spacing isn't necessarily only shoting 3s...It mainly is forcing the opponent's defence and particularly the bigs of the opponent to expand towards the perimeter... In other words, to take them out and avoid double teaming on your bigs when they attack the rim.[/QUOTE]

    Which is a lot harder to do when you don't have enough shooting.

    Also why the Warrior offense has struggled at times against a great defense without KD.

    Despite the abundance of playmakers at their disposal, a lineup of Curry, Klay, Dray, Iggy + Looney or Bogut has 3 non-shooters. The defense is able to effectively tilt toward Curry and Klay while leaving Draymond and Iggy open for shots they don't want to take.

    It isn't difficult to space the floor efficiently and engage all 5 defenders with 2 non shooters. 3 non shooters is tough.

    Especially when the two shooters you have are probably also their two best play makers. If you want the ball to be in DLo or Jrue's hands to initiate action, you run out of jobs for the 3 bigs. 1 can screen on the ball, 1 off, but the 3rd is either occupying a perimeter spot where he isn't a threat providing or being a role replace guy. Both provide an easy help rotation.

    Yes. There are sets you can run. But the options are limited and scoring efficiently in the half court will be problematic against a good defensive team. The best options probably involve Zion or Randle initiating the offense, which can work, but there are a lot more viable options in a smaller lineup with Levert at 3 and Randle off the bench.
     
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