When will Lebron pass Jordan?

[The Oldtimer]

You make me laugh OT...

Good!!!!

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

his abysmal finals record (on stacked teams for ALL OF THEM minus 2007) has already destroyed any chance LeBron has had in ever catching the GOAT. Jordan was unstoppable/unbeatable on the biggest stage.

And he has already played more seasons than Jordan. And is only halfway there overall. His competition for most of his career was inferior to Jordan's as well.

The shipped has sailed on LeBron ever being GOAT. Top 10-13 all time is nothing to sneeze at though.. All time great player.

At the end of the day Jordan's 100 percent winning percentage in finals vs. Lebrons 36 percent or whatever seals it. LeBron is lucky he isn't like an 8-10 percentage winning percentage. He was one Ray Allen Miracle 3 and Bogut injury away from being a 1-7 in NBA finals. Thats HORRID anyway you look at it. And no LeTot can say any different. 3-5 is almost equally pathetic.

I got LeBron somewhere in the 10-13 spot. Which is solid. Thats where he belongs. Next to Kobe, Hakeem, West, etc. Just a tad below Shaq/Duncan/Wilt (Yea I got Wilt higher because his team never Sniffed the talent of supporting help that LEbron has enjoyed since 2010.

Sure, if we are just going off pretty "stats" than LeBron is higher. But stats alone don't determine greatness

Lebron's competition in the finals has been far superior to Jordan's.

Having the comment that Lebron is in the 10-13 spot pretty much wipes out anything you tried to make sound legitimate.

 

[SJ76]

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Lebron is better than Jordan! Starring.... not Kyrie! And!!! "The help sucks"


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[True Lakers Fan]

Dumb argument. If this is what matters there are what 7 players better than Jordan...

If I had an avatar saying that "my boyfriend wears panties", I'd be careful about who I called dumb

 

[The Oldtimer]

Lebron's competition in the finals has been far superior to Jordan's.

Having the comment that Lebron is in the 10-13 spot pretty much wipes out anything you tried to make sound legitimate.

Okay?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Jordan didn't win them without help from his teammates.

Neither did Lebron?

 

[SJ76]

Nice shot Lebron. Never seen anyone create like that with the shot clock going down

 

[lebron23james]

Lebron's competition in the finals has been far superior to Jordan's.

Having the comment that Lebron is in the 10-13 spot pretty much wipes out anything you tried to make sound legitimate.

Has Jordan beat a 73 win team? Asking for a friend...

In that regard, Lebron mostly beats who he should beat and loses to who he should lose to.

Much like Jordan. No reasonable person could expect Jordan to beat the Bucks/Celtics of the 80s, or even the best version of the Pistons...but when the Pistons dropped he immediately beat them like a drum, and beat everyone when he was on top like he was expected to...perhaps in 1998 they might not have been favored

06-07 series. Spurs were the favorites. LeBron lost .
010-011 series Heat were the favorites. LeBron lost.
011-012 series Thunder were the favorirites. LeBron won.
012-013 series Heat were the favorites. LeBron won.
013-014 series Spurs were the favorites. LeBron lost.
014-015 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron lost.
015-016 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron won.
016-017 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron lost.

 

[SJ76]

Has Jordan beat a 73 win team? Asking for a friend...

In that regard, Lebron mostly beats who he should beat and loses to who he should lose to.

Much like Jordan. No reasonable person could expect Jordan to beat the Bucks/Celtics of the 80s, or even the best version of the Pistons...but when the Pistons dropped he immediately beat them like a drum, and beat everyone when he was on top like he was expected to...perhaps in 1998 they might not have been favored

06-07 series. Spurs were the favorites. LeBron lost .
010-011 series Heat were the favorites. LeBron lost.
011-012 series Thunder were the favorirites. LeBron won.
012-013 series Heat were the favorites. LeBron won.
013-014 series Spurs were the favorites. LeBron lost.
014-015 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron lost.
015-016 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron won.
016-017 series Warriors were the favorites. LeBron lost.

Actually Kyrie hit the shot to clinch against that 73 win team.


And speaking of Kyrie.. why did he leave again? I mean it's about winning right? All
I ever hear is Lebrons help sucks, Lebrons individual stats are awesome.. why would a guy like that leave Lebron and the Cavs?

 

[SJ76]

 

[lebron23james]

Actually Kyrie hit the shot to clinch against that 73 win team.


And speaking of Kyrie.. why did he leave again? I mean it's about winning right? All
I ever hear is Lebrons help sucks, Lebrons individual stats are awesome.. why would a guy like that leave Lebron and the Cavs?

Actually lebron scored the finals free throws and got the block prior to that and led both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for the series...so there is that

Kyrie wants to lead his own team, i don't think many people have a problem with that....The question is if he can, and stay healthy

 

[SJ76]

Actually lebron scored the finals free throws and got the block prior to that and led both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for the series...so there is that

Kyrie wants to lead his own team, i don't think many people have a problem with that....The question is if he can, and stay healthy

Kyrie hit the game winner series clincher. So there's that

And he bounced on Lebron. Doesn't sound like a championship team sticking together does it. Wonder why lol

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Okay?

What's the confusion old man?

 

[lebron23james]

Kyrie hit the game winner series clincher. So there's that

And he bounced on Lebron.

He wouldn't have even been in position to take that game winning shot had lebron not hit the 3 right before that and blocked the shot...so there is that

He didn't want to be pippen, nothing wrong with being alpha

 

[GNG]

Neither did Lebron?

Lebron isn't surrounded with the talent Jordan had.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

JORDAN would have gotten smoked by the 1994 or 1995 Rockets and had a blemish.
The Rockets were one of the few teams of that era that gave him fits and really made Jordan look mortal in a relative sense.

The opponents in 91,92,93,96,97,and 98 were weak sauce teams that were not really expected to win.
Maybe the 1998 Jazz could be viewed as an equal, but the other 5 were weaker opponents. 98 is debatable.

Jordan avoided the only Western team that likely would have beaten him.
Nobody was beating Peak Akeem Olajuwon at his best in 1994/1995.

In some ways Jordan got a bit lucky by dodging that bullet and keeping his record perfect.

 

[SJ76]

He wouldn't have even been in position to take that game winning shot had lebron not hit the 3 right before that and blocked the shot...so there is that

He didn't want to be pippen, nothing wrong with being alpha

Bullllllshit. You don't leave a championship team if you can win more championships.

Kyrie hit the shot that won that series. Cavs couldn't get it done without him the previous year could they. "The help" left because they were tired of Lebronda

 

[SJ76]

Lebron isn't surrounded with the talent Jordan had.

So why did Kyrie leave a championship team?

 

[The Oldtimer]

What's the confusion old man?

LOL, you tell me "what is the confusion", young punk?

 

[SJ76]

JORDAN would have gotten smoked by the 1994 or 1995 Rockets and had a blemish.
The Rockets were one of the few teams of that era that gave him fits and really made Jordan look mortal in a relative sense.

The opponents in 91,92,93,96,97,and 98 were weak sauce teams that were not really expected to win.
Maybe the 1998 Jazz could be viewed as an equal, but the other 5 were weaker opponents. 98 is debatable.

Jordan avoided the only Western team that likely would have beaten him.
Nobody was beating Peak Akeem Olajuwon at his best in 1994/1995.

In some ways Jordan got a bit lucky by dodging that bullet and keeping his record perfect.