When has Sam ever beat a top tier Defense?

[SJ76]

Exactly. As I've always said QB's always get too much credit and too much
blame.

Which in English means: Our QB didn't do shit besides get us in FG position and that's the only answer I can come up with to somehow prove my point that I love Sam and he's my boyfriend.


What a gamer! LOL

 

[LTR1961]

"LOL Who thinks Clemens should start over Bradford? You and DK7000 and jacob obviously don't read shit on here."

People have stated that on this board. Saying draft a QB, get rid of Bradford and start Clemens next year. That's what I was responding too. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[SJ76]

How many times does someone need to point that our D played good against San Fran and Seattle? They kept us in the game, as did Greg Z and fake FG, pick 6...


LOL What the hell did #8 do?? He got Greg Z into FG position for a 56/60 yarder!!!! He coached Johnny Hekker to throw that TD because he couldn't do it himself?? And why is that? Because maybe he didn't have his 4-5 seconds in the pocket he needs?

 

[SJ76]

People have stated that on this board. Saying draft a QB, get rid of Bradford
and start Clemens next year. That's what I was replying too. Why is that so
hard for you to understand.

Because you are putting ME in the boat of them "people" and I have stated all along, draft a QB and bring back Bradford. Let their be a competition. So who's assuming and not understanding now?

But you rush right into trying to back up your point that you don't even read or get what I'm saying I guess...? No idea. Did you vote for Obama too? And now defend him like Bradford?


I'm sorry Mrs. Bradford, this must be very emotional for you and your boy.

 

[LTR1961]

How many times does someone need to point that our D played good against San Fran and Seattle? They kept us in the game, as did Greg Z and fake FG, pick 6...


LOL What the hell did #8 do?? He got Greg Z into FG position for a 56/60 yarder!!!! He coached Johnny Hekker to throw that TD!

How many times does someone have to point out that the Rams had a score on defense and a punt return to help blow the Indy game open. Again, teams win game and QB's help. You can't have it both ways. You can't say Clemens won the Indy game but Bradfrod has never done a damn thing to help them win a game ever.

 

[LTR1961]

Because you are putting ME in the boat of them "people" and I have stated all along, draft a QB and bring back Bradford. Let their be a competition. So who's assuming and not understanding now?

But you rush right into trying to back up your point that you don't even read or get what I'm saying I guess...? No idea. Did you vote for Obama too? And now defend him like Bradford?


I'm sorry Mrs. Bradford, this must be very emotional for you and your boy.

No I wasn't. I responed to THOSE people and you immediatley jumped in ripping me.

 

[SJ76]

This is for DK 7000 - since he doesn't read a dam thing:


Bradford had ZERO TD's versus San Fran last year: Janoris had 1 TD, Greg Z had a few FG's - 1 to tie and 1 to win in OT!

Bradford had ZERO TD's versus Seattle too...

So doing the math, that's ZERO TD's in those 2 wins and you're going to tell me that Sam led us to victory? Not Greg Z's 56 yarder or 60 yarder????!!! OK!! LOLOL Johnny Hekker had 1 TD on a fake FG against Seattle, while Greg Z had 4 FG's - 2 of which were longer than 56 yards... uhhhhh beavis???

That's not too impressive, so if you want to give the win to the Rams fine. but you can't really say that Sam put the team on his back and got it done can you? As a matter of fact (and back to my question.. lol), when has Sam ever put the team on his back and got it done?

Thank you Greg Z and defense! As usual! And thanks Sam for getting us into FG position of 50+ yards!!



Hilarious

 

[LTR1961]

No I wasn't. I responed to THOSE people and you immediatley jumped in ripping me.

My original post in this thread was acutally in reposne to chillipepper and had nothing to do with you.

 

[SJ76]

How many times does someone have to point out that the Rams had a score on
defense and a punt return to help blow the Indy game open. Again, teams win
game and QB's help. You can't have it both ways. You can't say Clemens won the
Indy game but Bradfrod has never done a damn thing to help them win a game
ever.

OMG! WHEN DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CLEMENS WINNING THE GAME IN INDY BUT SAM DIDN'T IN HOUSTON?? UNreal. Are you on your period Mrs. Bradford? I gave the credit in both of those games to the defense, ST, and offense - IN that order! AND what's even crazier, we were talking about top tier defenses - San Fran and Seattle last year. Is Indy a top tier Defense? NOOOO! SO WHAT IN THE HELL ARE MUMBLING ABOUT?


Mrs. Bradford, go take a xanax or something. Pat Sam on the head and tell him it's ok. The team will be ok without him.

You are truly out of your tree.

 

[SJ76]

 

[LTR1961]

I never said Indy was a top tier defense. I simply stated that there are a few top tier defenses the Rams have beaten since Sam has been the QB. However I always view wins as team wins not QB wins but…..You act as if they could have run me out there and won those games against SF and Seattle. Bradford did HELP win those games regardless of whether or not he threw a TD pass just as Clemens HELPED the Rams beat Indy while throwing only 16 passes.

You’re correct you didn't mention that Clemens won the game so I was wrong and I apologize. However, these Mrs. Bradford and pat Sam on the butt comments are out of line. I’ve told you several times that I'm in the middle when it comes to Bradford. He’s not as bad as you and others portray him to be but he’s not as good as some think he is. I’ve said many times he’s a middle of the road QB right now and needs to get better. If they end up bringing in someone else that’s fine with me as long as they win games. That’s all I care about. Last thing and then I’m done. This petty name calling when someone doesn’t agree with you is childish and reminds me of Larry.

 

[SJ76]

OK let's stop beating the horse man. We're both Rams fans. It's all good.

No worries. Someday we will know if Sam is the QB for us. Who knows? I don't hate Sam, I just want our boys to have a shot at winning. I want to see fire in eyes and giving all you got on the field.


I'm a smartass and I like to laugh. You all do make me wonder at times, but it's all good. I'm going to start a positive thread.

 

[Retroram52]

SJ76, LTR does have a point on the name calling. Likewise, references to Larry are in the same category LTR and jacobarch. I know SJ76 and he is no Larry. I know a little about Larry and he is no SJ76. So, I think folks will be moving along and we will see if Sammie is going to be the guy in the future because he is not playing anymore this year.

 

[SJ76]

I wanna meet this Larry!! LOL


And I like you all on here. If we were all at a game or bar, discussing these topics... bustin each others balls, it would be way more fun.

That's what I do, bust balls.


But now I am intrigued.. I want to meet Larry.

 

[Smed55]

I never said Indy was a top tier defense. I simply stated that there are a few top tier defenses the Rams have beaten since Sam has been the QB. However I always view wins as team wins not QB wins but…..You act as if they could have run me out there and won those games against SF and Seattle. Bradford did HELP win those games regardless of whether or not he threw a TD pass just as Clemens HELPED the Rams beat Indy while throwing only 16 passes.

You’re correct you didn't mention that Clemens won the game so I was wrong and I apologize. However, these Mrs. Bradford and pat Sam on the butt comments are out of line. I’ve told you several times that I'm in the middle when it comes to Bradford. He’s not as bad as you and others portray him to be but he’s not as good as some think he is. I’ve said many times he’s a middle of the road QB right now and needs to get better. If they end up bringing in someone else that’s fine with me as long as they win games. That’s all I care about. Last thing and then I’m done. This petty name calling when someone doesn’t agree with you is childish and reminds me of Larry.

I'm not a big Bradford fan, but I agree with you, he's definatey not the best, or worst QB out there. But I also agree with SJ, Sammie really hasn't done much, he's had a few nice games, but "I think" that alot of his stats that everyone is in love with are "usually", not always, because we are way behind and he "has" to throw the ball, and on top of that it's usually against a prevent defense, and we all know how that works, ita doesnt. We complain when the Rams play prevent!

Obviously all of us on here aren't going to agree on everything, let alone anything, but I agree when the name calling starts, then we become the Miami Dolphin locker room, we are on here to "discuss" and give our "opinions" even though most of you are wrong I kid with you, yes?

Like this comment, I agree with SJ, Sammie got us into 60 yard FG position? And he didn't do a whole lot to help with the SF or Sea wins. I will agree with you though that it's not like Sammie hasnt done anything for us, as I said he has had a few really nice games, he has won games for us, just not enough to my liking. And I have stated the same thing many times, QB's are going to get the praise and the blame all the time, that's just how it is. But if you have noticed, there's not been a whole lot of praise going Sammies way, yes it's a team game, but he's not getting it done, and as I also always say, the proof is in the pudding!!!

There are a lot of people that come in here and say I'm wrong, or I don't have a clue, or whatever. I have a opinion, I don't believe I've ever come on here and told someone "you're wrong". Until now, for the people that use that term, you are wrong, no one in here has all the answers or knows exactly what's going on in the Ram locker room, or why they do this or that. As fans we are always going to question why they ran that play, why is he starting and he isn't?

Every week I watch every play of every game on short cuts, with the NFL package. I watch a lot of football, I see a lot of the same issues with almost EVERY team, so I "disagree" when people say that we do this, we do that, why can't we do this or that. "IF, most of you watched all these other teams "I think" you would see what I am saying. Yes our team sucks and has for quite some time now, but there are other teams that have sucked for longer, there are fans that have NEVER seen there team go to the Supper Bowl, let alone win it. If I remember correctly I think the Lions have only won one, maybe two playoffs games since the Super Bowl era

Anyway, as always, just my opinion, going forward let's just hope Clemens, Bradford, whoever wins some games for us, I don't care about our draft position, I'd rather go 6-10, 7-9 than go through what we have. I like to "enjoy" Sunday's, plus I don't think it matters where we draft, we need to pick a quality player in the first round wherever we pick

 

[SJ76]

Like this comment, I agree with SJ, Sammie got us into 60 yard FG position? And
he didn't do a whole lot to help with the SF or Sea wins.

You mean getting the team to the Seattle 45 for a 60 yarder doesn't impress you??!!

I will agree with you though that it's not like Sammie hasnt done anything for
us, as I said he has had a few really nice games, he has won games for us, just
not enough to my liking

.

He has had some good games, many average game... yes I agree. Just like you, I've never really been wowed and seen Bradford put the team on his back to win. Maybe I expect him to be like Pujols a few years ago and yes Bradford is no Pujols a few years ago. But sooner or later, I think every fan wants to see his QB pick apart offenses and lay it on somebody!

But we just keep waiting, hearing excuses about the OC or WR's or O-line. Sooner or later it has go on someone's shoulders - either step up and get it done or go sit and give someone else a chance.

 

[Smed55]

You mean getting the team to the Seattle 45 for a 60 yarder doesn't impress you??!!


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He has had some good games, many average game... yes I agree. Just like you, I've never really been wowed and seen Bradford put the team on his back to win. Maybe I expect him to be like Pujols a few years ago and yes Bradford is no Pujols a few years ago. But sooner or later, I think every fan wants to see his QB pick apart offenses and lay it on somebody!

But we just keep waiting, hearing excuses about the OC or WR's or O-line. Sooner or later it has go on someone's shoulders - either step up and get it done or go sit and give someone else a chance.

The 60 yard FG impresses me, the field position, not so much! I'm not that impressed when their drives stall at the 35 and we settle for a 50 yarder, but I am thankful that we have Zuerlien, and I'm anxiously waiting for him to kick that record breaker! that kick he missed earlier in the year would have been good from 70 had he not pushed it just a bit!

 

[LTR1961]

"SJ76, LTR does have a point on the name calling. Likewise, references to Larry are in the same category LTR....."

I thought about that when I typed it but figured what the hell.

 

[LTR1961]

OK let's stop beating the horse man. We're both Rams fans. It's all good.

No worries. Someday we will know if Sam is the QB for us. Who knows? I don't hate Sam, I just want our boys to have a shot at winning. I want to see fire in eyes and giving all you got on the field.


I'm a smartass and I like to laugh. You all do make me wonder at times, but it's all good. I'm going to start a positive thread.

I look at it this way. Sam better find a way to become a top 10-12 NFL QB in this league or it will set the Rams back several years. They are 4 years in now with the guy that was supposed to be the "franchise QB" and it would be a disaster if they have to bring in another guy in 2015.

 

[SJ76]

I just want him to come out swinging. Be hungry! And it's not his fault he made $60+ million and it's also hard to be hungry when you're like uncle scrooge, swimming in money.


But what Sam needs to do is to come out in the first half with some fire and execute. Score some points. His stats can say this and that OVERALL. But you and I both know the guy hardly did squat this year in the first half. Our red zone efficiency has been bad for years. It did improve some this year when he was in. But it's difficult to be in games against good offenses when you're down 24-3 at half or worse.