Whats wrong with the Patriots? Let's start here...

[GNG]

The way Brady’s moving nowadays, he could become a vegetable with one big hit....If that was allowed of course....

Well he is quite old.

 

[Mofo]

Every season, we go through this. November, oh no, the Pats aren't as dominant. Brady has lost his edge, this is wrong, that isn't working, yada, yada. Then we look up in January, and the Pats are hosting a game after the bye and winning. I'll just wait and see and I could honestly not give a rats ass about "nextgen stats". When it comes to BB and January football, the stats are as worthless as used toilet paper.

They're the winningest underdogs ever.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Those top defensive stats appear to have been padded by the weak opponents in the early season. It is not as easy to get those same results when they play better teams.

My guess is Buffalo and the Pats are tied at the top of the division at seasons end but the Pats will somehow win the division when the tie breaker rules are applied

Agreed.

It's still a very good defense maybe tops in the league but it's not awe inspiring.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

yes. it started when they let demarius thomas walk for the "talents" of AB.

and brought in 4 TE's that have combined for 38 catches, for 349 yards and 1 TD.

And while he's not Gronk, the one that got away to Seattle is doing very well there.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

That said, not taking a TE with 10 draft choices is a head scratcher.

Agreed.

 

[CaptainStubing]

annnndddd they'll probably hoist another one of these in a couple of months

 

[Rock Strongo]

And while he's not Gronk, the one that got away to Seattle is doing very well there.

yeah, those fragile hollister twins. one seems to be panning out fine.

 

[Pure Steel]

annnndddd they'll probably hoist another one of these in a couple of months

He’s walking like he’s got fingers in his ass....

 

[Judge Fudge]

yeah, those fragile hollister twins. one seems to be panning out fine.

Yah...


Thanks for that.

 

[Dude]

3.25 seconds average to get rid of the ball. That is too much time. He used to get it out in 2 seconds with the D&D scheme. Now he drops back and finds nothing because he looks for the medium to long pass.

 

[Dude]

That said, not taking a TE with 10 draft choices is a head scratcher.

There is much truth in this. Maybe they banked on Gronk coming back, which was a big reach.

 

[Clayton]

I'm not falling for this.

If they lose by 20 points to the Chiefs then I'll start this conversation but the Pats are exactly where they want to be right now.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

There is much truth in this. Maybe they banked on Gronk coming back, which was a big reach.

Weren't there 2 TEs from the same team NE was looking at. Once those two lead pipe cinches were gone they seemed to lose interest.

Fant and Hocksteader??

 

[Dude]

Weren't there 2 TEs from the same team NE was looking at. Once those two lead pipe cinches were gone they seemed to lose interest.

Fant and Hocksteader??

Not sure about details, but it was dumb to not secure a decent TE. A position the Pats have relied on for Brady to produce. Now, they have garbage and an aging Watson .

 

[Dude]

I'm not falling for this.

If they lose by 20 points to the Chiefs then I'll start this conversation but the Pats are exactly where they want to be right now.

That is optimistic, thanks! But, Chiefs D has been steadily improving. Maybe not by 20, but having a hard time imagining the Pats O keeping up with Mahomes & Co. Unless the D steps up, big time.

 

[Clayton]

That is optimistic, thanks! But, Chiefs D has been steadily improving. Maybe not by 20, but having a hard time imagining the Pats O keeping up with Mahomes & Co. Unless the D steps up, big time.

The issue is that the Chiefs offense isn't clicking like it was last year. Chiefs are averaging 2.6 points per drive which is good for 2nd in the NFL this year but last year they were averaging 3.25 points per drive.

Based on what I've seen this year, the Chiefs are going to have a hard time scoring 20 points let alone winning by 20 points. If someone finds a blueprint against that Pats D, though,....thats win I'd start getting a little worried if I was a Pats fan.

 

[Tapey]

What is wrong with the Patriots? People are asking about a 10-2 team and the 2 seed in the playoffs

 

[ATL96Steeler]

The issue is that the Chiefs offense isn't clicking like it was last year. Chiefs are averaging 2.6 points per drive which is good for 2nd in the NFL this year but last year they were averaging 3.25 points per drive.

Based on what I've seen this year, the Chiefs are going to have a hard time scoring 20 points let alone winning by 20 points. If someone finds a blueprint against that Pats D, though,....thats win I'd start getting a little worried if I was a Pats fan.

That (KC OFC LY) was always going to be difficult to repeat. I think NE is in fine shape too, but they are lacking playmakers...the NE D is very good at scheming but if you have a good OL, you can neutralized them up front a little... edge players are good, not great...they do have elite talent at CB and the backend.

They feasted on a lot of bad teams early and it spiked the rankings...DAL is not bad, but they did make them look bad...then you have the HOU game which is why I called the article knee jerkish...we'll have to see what the weather holds but I think KC will score 20+...as will NE...that's what makes this matchup interesting.

 

[flyerhawk]

The Patriots were looking historically great when they were playing a historically weak stretch of teams to start the season.

That wasn't sustainable. But they are still 10-2 and lost to 2 likely playoff teams. Their defense is still very good, albeit not as dominant as they seemed at the half way point of the season.

Their offense is suspect but far from terrible. I still only see 2 teams in the AFC that might beat them in the playoffs.

 

[Pure Steel]

Well he is quite old.

He’s the GOAT......Getting Old And Tired