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Series Thread: WCF: 1) Golden State Warriors vs 3) Portland Trail Blazers

Discussion in 'NBA Basketball Forum' started by bksballer89, May 12, 2019.

  1. Tapey

    Tapey Well-Known Member

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    The Warriors are still the best team in the NBA without Durant
     



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  2. Wishbone

    Wishbone Robust Member

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    Thats why there will always be an * next to Durants championships. He won't get any respect until he can prove that he can win a title with his own team.
     
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  3. tlance

    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    LOL.

    What are you basing that on?

    The Celtics just aren't that good. Very similar to OKC. The 6ers aren't as good as they should be either. Yeah, they have talent, but their talent doesn't show up for every game and their pieces don't fit that well. Or at least, their coach doesn't know how to use the pieces he has.

    You asked how Portland is down 0-3? The answer to that is match-ups. They don't match up well with the Warriors.

    But also, if you are able to be even slightly objective here, just about every criticism you had for the West teams applies to the East.

    Seriously. Make a list of the top 15 players in the NBA. It is probably going to look something like this:

    (In no particular order)

    KD
    Giannis
    Kawhi
    Curry
    Harden
    LeBron
    A. Davis
    George
    Lillard
    Russ
    Jokic
    Embiid
    Kyrie
    KAT
    Klay
    Butler

    I did this quickly and off the top of my head, but that is 11 of 16 from the West.

    But you want to say the East is better and deeper?

    Hell no.

    There is 1 special team in both conferences that nobody else can beat. There are a lot of pretty good basketball teams after that. More reside in the West.

    But because they can't beat GS without KD, that doesn't prove a damn thing. After all, GS won championship without him and are still a top 3 team without him.

    That is the reason so many were upset when he signed there.
     
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  4. tlance

    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    Nope.

    Still no asterisk.

    20 years from now, GS will be discussed as an all time great dynasty and there will not be any mention of the circumstance that brought them together.

    And KD will be remembered as a top 15, maybe even top 10 player of all time when his career is over, depending on what else he is able to accomplish.
     
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  5. TurnUpTheHeat

    TurnUpTheHeat Well-Known Member

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    You're entitled to your opinion...but...most non OKC fans disagree.
    When the Warriors are complete, Durant is their best player who won the Finals MVP's.
     
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  6. thunderc

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    He’s definitely going to end up a top 10 player, at least. You can talk technicalities all you want, yes he will have the titles and no one can argue that. There have been way too many people point out that he went title searching though for there not to be an asterisk, it’s there right now. Way too many people have spoke out about it for that not to be the case. Other players and people like Stephen Smith are on the list. The most important is Durant himself, he knows these titles are not full share titles, I guarantee you that.
     
  7. ChiefsLakers67

    ChiefsLakers67 Cowards WILL BE cowards..

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    yep. best player in the league right now according to some...

    team game, though...
     
  8. ChiefsLakers67

    ChiefsLakers67 Cowards WILL BE cowards..

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    no one seems to hold that against LeClown...
     
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  9. thunderc

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    I do, he was a sidekick to Wade. But no it wasn’t close to the same situation, in fact no one has even came close to doing what Durant did. Hence the asterisk.
     
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    ChiefsLakers67 Cowards WILL BE cowards..

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    care to explain how it wasn't the same...?
     
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  11. Shane_O_Mac812

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    Weird, looked in the 2019 Sports Almanac, says KD has two titles and Finals MVPs and there is not an asterick by his name on either stat. Just because you put one there doesn't mean it's true. I could put a Anna Kendrick mask on my wife, doesn't mean I'm fucking a movie star.
     
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  12. Wamu

    Wamu whats-a-matta-u?

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    I got this.

    LeBron went to Miami & teamed up w/ 2 All Stars. KD went to a team he couldn't beat. That had the current 2x League MVP. That were the 2x defending conference champs. And he teamed up w/ 3 All Stars.:heh:
     
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  13. thunderc

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    The Heat were not going to win anymore titles the way they were assembled when Lebron went there, no chance. And Lebron hadn’t just lost to them before he joined them, that’s the worst look for Durant.
     
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    LMAO.

    You should defintely try that last part though. Let me know how your wife takes to that idea.
     
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  15. tlance

    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    That was also enough under the cap to sign a max player and retain all their core guys.

    This is a once in a gereration situation.

    No asterisk required. KD is an all time great player with 2 titles and counting.
     
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  16. Montalban

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    Reminds me of the '75 championship team; get way behind as a matter of course and then make a stunning second-half come back to win.
     
  17. Wamu

    Wamu whats-a-matta-u?

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    Never said KD wasn't an all time great. But I think his move to G.S. was 100x worse than LeBron going to Miami.
     
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  18. TurnUpTheHeat

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    Everything aligned perfectly for the Warriors to have done what they did and are still doing.
    Like you said, once in a generation, if ever again, but it is what it is.
     
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  19. TurnUpTheHeat

    TurnUpTheHeat Well-Known Member

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    Why?
    You think Durant and the others enjoyed watching James for the most part , having a free pass to the Finals every year while they were beating each others brains out trying to get there?
    These guys all have more money then they could ever spend unless they totally mismanage it.
    So, what can't they buy?
    Answer is NBA titles.
    Why not try to get yours when the opportunity arrises?
     
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  20. Wamu

    Wamu whats-a-matta-u?

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    Why? Read comment # 912.