Game Thread: W6 TNF: 49ers @ Seahawks. Amazon/Q13/CTV2 8:15/5:15

[Stlducks]

This one stings.

Not Gonna lie. WE HAD THEM....

BUT IT SLIPPED

You could say the Niners almost let it slip to you. If the RZ offense was better, this was a blowout in the first half.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

You could say the Niners almost let it slip to you. If the RZ offense was better, this was a blowout in the first half.

Ducks.. the 49ers blew us out.. it should've been a fumble on the punt return, the score should've been 43-13 or something. Same with the Giants who should've been up 30-6 in the 4th quarter. Stop trying to help. This team blows ass.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well that was a shitty game last night. Geno sucked cause Grubb is asking him to do way too much. Where Geno does well is having that solid run game and only dropping back 25 to 28 times per game. Anything over 35+ is asking for trouble and showed last night. Grubb needs to realize that isn't Penix back there and the run game can and would work well if they get it started early in the game. Just crazy they haven't figured this out the last few games.

Now the defense, Mac needs another year or two to get his players to fit his scheme. Injuries have hampered the D and next man up theory is more next man up is not stepping up to make plays. Some of these starters need to get healthy and maybe get back to playing 60 mins of competitive football.

 

[uwdawgfan]

You could say the Niners almost let it slip to you. If the RZ offense was better, this was a blowout in the first half.

Pretty sure you have your own forum....sorry you couldn't fit Denver Nuggets on your profile.

 

[Screamin12th]

Now that I'm over the shock of some painful loses, some bad performances, I'm still hopeful this roster can turn it around. New staff and a bunch of very young players it's taking time to gel and of course need some good luck with health. I think at times I'm too invested in the Seahawks play and really puts me in a foul mood when they combine losing with shoddy play (sometimes they can play bad and win, not nearly as painful) makes me want to strike out and smash something. Not ready to throw in the towel, hopefully they can play better next week vs the Falcons.

Yes it's when they play like shit that makes me want to break something. We have seen them play well and it just sucks to seem them so undisciplined and players looking like they shouldn't even be starting like our middle linebackers. Dodson and Baker are JOKES! Let knight play more god damn it! Yes he is a rookie and makes mistakes but he seems to have some skill just needs the maturing. He has not played a single snap in the past two games where he was over 57% in all 3 games before that. ( wk2 65%, wk3 57%, wk4 74% )

 

[Cave_Johnson]

From a final score standpoint this is more or less what I expected.

But damn, there was no reason this couldn't have been a W if Geno doesn't throw a couple awful passes and Ken Walker just gets set before the snap.

SF didn't look good at all either. Seattle just looked like a big steamy pile of dogshit.

 

[Screamin12th]

But damn, there was no reason this couldn't have been a W if Geno doesn't throw a couple awful passes and Ken Walker just gets set before the snap.

Walker was little tippy tapping it out also. It was like he had no clue he had to be set as he tried so hard to NOT be set even slowing WAY down so he wouldn't run out of room on the sideline. That looked to be a coaching mistake and something OC should have taught better. There is no excuse for that other than it looked to be taught wrong.

 

[Anointed One]

We've all agreed that Geno is and has never been our future at the QB position... I do feel this coaching staff/Grubbs is doing him a bit of a disservice... Geno is not a drop back QB on 80% of the plays... He's set up to fail miserably when that's the case... Helk, he's not even a drop back QB 65% of the plays, yet almost 70% of the plays we run are drop back passes...

40 Pass attempts per game... But if you consider his scrambles and sacks, he has 47 drop backs per game...


22 Rushing attempts per game... That's it! For 2 guys we invested second round picks on in back to back drafts.


4 out of 5 games this year, he's attempted over 40 passes... 2x's he's attempted over 50... In all 5 games he's dropped back 40x's... 3x's he's dropped back 50x's when you consider his scrambles and sacks taken...


Now look at the last few seasons... He's on pace for exceeding his attempts in 2023 through 12 games... He's on pace to exceed/match his attempts in 2022 through 12/13 games...


When it's all said and done, the coaching staff is/isn't doing Geno justice:

• They committed to the wrong guy for their style of offense
• Grubb doesn't know how to adjust to the talent he has on the field
• They are just using this season to see how Geno can handle some extra overtime via the passing game

All in all, I think we can all agree that they aren't doing Geno any service right now with how they are managing the game... He obviously isn't capable of handling this extra bulk/responsibility in the passing game... They're also not doing K. Walker/Charb any justice either...

 

[HaroldSeattle]

We've all agreed that Geno is and has never been our future at the QB position... I do feel this coaching staff/Grubbs is doing him a bit of a disservice... Geno is not a drop back QB on 80% of the plays... He's set up to fail miserably when that's the case... Helk, he's not even a drop back QB 65% of the plays, yet almost 70% of the plays we run are drop back passes...

40 Pass attempts per game... But if you consider his scrambles and sacks, he has 47 drop backs per game...
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22 Rushing attempts per game... That's it! For 2 guys we invested second round picks on in back to back drafts.
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4 out of 5 games this year, he's attempted over 40 passes... 2x's he's attempted over 50... In all 5 games he's dropped back 40x's... 3x's he's dropped back 50x's when you consider his scrambles and sacks taken...
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Now look at the last few seasons... He's on pace for exceeding his attempts in 2023 through 12 games... He's on pace to exceed/match his attempts in 2022 through 12/13 games...
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When it's all said and done, the coaching staff is/isn't doing Geno justice:

• They committed to the wrong guy for their style of offense
• Grubb doesn't know how to adjust to the talent he has on the field
• They are just using this season to see how Geno can handle some extra overtime via the passing game

All in all, I think we can all agree that they aren't doing Geno any service right now with how they are managing the game... He obviously isn't capable of handling this extra bulk/responsibility in the passing game... They're also not doing K. Walker/Charb any justice either...

Looking at the run pass ratio Seahawks are dead last at running ratio at 34.5 % of the plays and they need to increase that. Can the OL sustain a running game and avoid being 3rd and long to often? We don't want run, run, pass, punt happening very often. Funny when Pete was here folks complained it was too run heavy and to many run, run, pass, punts occurred.

 

[Anointed One]

Looking at the run pass ratio Seahawks are dead last at running ratio at 34.5 % of the plays and they need to increase that. Can the OL sustain a running game and avoid being 3rd and long to often? We don't want run, run, pass, punt happening very often. Funny when Pete was here folks complained it was too run heavy and to many run, run, pass, punts occurred.

Being pass happy is fine, but we don’t have a quarterback to be pass happy with.

Put in Howell if you want to be pass happy

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Being pass happy is fine, but we don’t have a quarterback to be pass happy with.

Put in Howell if you want to be pass happy

I think you would have a lot more interceptions using Howell.

 

[Anointed One]

I think you would have a lot more interceptions using Howell.

Possibly. We may have a few additional touchdowns too, though who knows

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Looking at the run pass ratio Seahawks are dead last at running ratio at 34.5 % of the plays and they need to increase that. Can the OL sustain a running game and avoid being 3rd and long to often? We don't want run, run, pass, punt happening very often. Funny when Pete was here folks complained it was too run heavy and to many run, run, pass, punts occurred.

We need that run pass ratio more 45/55 or 48/52. These ratios should make Geno more comfortable in the pocket as play action becomes a weapon and defenses have to start guessing what's coming to them.

 

[Screamin12th]

I think you would have a lot more interceptions using Howell.

Geno is on pace for 17 INT's the INT's with Howell would be about the same NO WHERE close to "A LOT MORE". Geno is on Pace to throw OVER 700 passes!

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Geno is on pace for 17 INT's the INT's with Howell would be about the same NO WHERE close to "A LOT MORE". Geno is on Pace to throw OVER 700 passes!

Matter of opinion

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Geno is on pace for 17 INT's the INT's with Howell would be about the same NO WHERE close to "A LOT MORE". Geno is on Pace to throw OVER 700 passes!

Small sample size but Howell last season threw 21 picks. With out a solid run game behind Howell and dropping him back same amount as Geno he'll throw more picks. The other side of the coin is he'll probably throw more TDs with high yardage.

 

[Screamin12th]

Small sample size but Howell last season threw 21 picks. With out a solid run game behind Howell and dropping him back same amount as Geno he'll throw more picks. The other side of the coin is he'll probably throw more TDs with high yardage.

Yes because there is ZERO chance he improved over basically his rookie season even just a little, am i right?

Geno for most of his career was 1-1 on TD to INT's. It's no shock he is 1 to 1 this season. Geno would have to play top 5 to end up with 25+ TD this season.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Yes because there is ZERO chance he improved over basically his rookie season even just a little, am i right?

Geno for most of his career was 1-1 on TD to INT's. It's no shock he is 1 to 1 this season. Geno would have to play top 5 to end up with 25+ TD this season.

Of course there's zero chance he could have improved. Do you have info that Howell has improved? Probably not.
Don't take this as Geno is the better option cause he's not but lets face reality that Howell is just as average as Geno unless you give me straight facts Howell right now is the better option.

 

[Screamin12th]

Of course there's zero chance he could have improved. Do you have info that Howell has improved? Probably not.
Don't take this as Geno is the better option cause he's not but lets face reality that Howell is just as average as Geno unless you give me straight facts Howell right now is the better option.

Just saying Sam is YOUNG Geno is not. Sam can Improve. Geno improved and he was WORSE than Sam. Saying he is FAR worse than Geno is BS. We dont know but we do know one thing. That is Geno is nothing more than a .500 QB. I would rather go 3-14 with Sam Howell than with Geno. At least we would know if there is something there. Geno is average at best so was Sam Howell his first full season starting when he went for 63.4% comp. 3,946 yards with 21 TD and 21 INT.

Do i think Sam Howell is the answer? Hell no, Drew Lock was a Better QB but i don't know and neither does anyone else in here. I just am sick and tired of seeing us pass 40 god damn times a game. RUN THE MF BALL!

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Just saying Sam is YOUNG Geno is not. Sam can Improve. Geno improved and he was WORSE than Sam. Saying he is FAR worse than Geno is BS. We dont know but we do know one thing. That is Geno is nothing more than a .500 QB. I would rather go 3-14 with Sam Howell than with Geno. At least we would know if there is something there. Geno is average at best so was Sam Howell his first full season starting when he went for 63.4% comp. 3,946 yards with 21 TD and 21 INT.

Do i think Sam Howell is the answer? Hell no, Drew Lock was a Better QB but i don't know and neither does anyone else in here. I just am sick and tired of seeing us pass 40 god damn times a game. RUN THE MF BALL!

Well some good news this upcoming weekend. Bradford is not practicing so finally we may get a full game of Haynes instead of this dumbass rotation crap. And Forsythe is out as well... and I get he's our 3rd string RT, but at this point I'd rather throw one of the cheerleaders in there who can line up bent over and do a far better job distracting the DE than Forsythe.

I find it amusing some Seahawks YouTubers were complaining about both these guys being out. All I could think of was: