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Varlomov arrested on domestic violence charges

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No matter what happened or happens I think we can all agree that this is not the way to kick off a new season.
 

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And now is when his and the NHLs lawyers will do everything in their power to make sure the most damning evidence isn't presented.

It's much easier to face court when the murder weapon has been disposed of. Again "Not guilty" does not equal "innocent". Usually just means enough evidence was successfully invalidated.



Had a child **** case once. I was asked three hours of questions by defense about my methods, my lab, my evidence storage. And not one about the giant folder of pictures of kids. As if how the evidence was found, cataloged and stored had any bearing on what that sick fucker was doing.

Oh, I absolutely agree, but it's the price you pay for protecting against some innocent guy getting twenty to life because "it HAD to be him."

I just wish the protection of the accused (which is a valid and just thing to have in a legal system) let fewer guilty folks go free on technicalities/burden of proof, as I'm sure you've dealt with before.
 

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I want all people guilty of crimes to pay for them, but I dont think it should be easy to convict someone of a serious crime. If the person did it, and everyone does their job, then they will usually pay for it. At least thats what I believe.

Procedures and rules are there for good reason, and if occasionally someone who did something or someone everyone "knows" did something doesnt get found guilty then thats a fair price to pay. A sucky one at times but a fair price.

And while I agree that a not guilty verdict or dropped charges does not always mean the person is innocent the opposite is true too. Charges filed or accusations made does not always mean guilty.
 

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Defense attorneys are far bigger business than prosecutors, and for a reason.

If you're guilty, you should pay. If you're not you shouldn't. Completely agree. But you should not get better odds based on how much money or legal support is protecting the investment an organization made in you above everything else. Justice *should* be blind. Not systematically blinded. There isn't much on this earth that I hate more than pleading to a lesser charge because evidence has been "tainted" or disposed of.

I know I have a skewed view of it because I work on the law and order side of things, typically defense attorneys don't want anything to do with me or people in my line of work. And I have been involved in helping innocent people go "free". I've seen tons of people accused of something that was otherwise explained. Those usually don't get to court until we find who actually did it.

I know of a case where a guy got 30 years for doing the EXACT same thing Jamal Lewis did. Jamal got 3 months to serve in the offseason when he was hurt anyway. Difference - this guy was a ghetto kid who was handing off his business because he wanted out. Not a star running back handing off because he had a source of easier money.

But I've also seen a guy who embezzled $8mil go free because the investigator, while taking pictures of the area of the guy worked in, set down his can of Mt Dew. And there was a sign on the wall that said "No food or drink allowed". So the argument was "What other rules did you break?" and all his evidence got discredited to the jury.

I also know that most (and granted, not all) law enforcement won't take charging a felony lightly. They are not going to just say "Sure, type up the warrant. We'll see if I guessed right eventually!". Especially if there's a chance for national attention. You're going to be pretty damn sure before you make that call.
 

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Avs should sign a new goalie just in case Varlamov ends up taking refuge in Russia,

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Defense attorneys are far bigger business than prosecutors, and for a reason.

If you're guilty, you should pay. If you're not you shouldn't. Completely agree. But you should not get better odds based on how much money or legal support is protecting the investment an organization made in you above everything else. Justice *should* be blind. Not systematically blinded. There isn't much on this earth that I hate more than pleading to a lesser charge because evidence has been "tainted" or disposed of.

I know I have a skewed view of it because I work on the law and order side of things, typically defense attorneys don't want anything to do with me or people in my line of work. And I have been involved in helping innocent people go "free". I've seen tons of people accused of something that was otherwise explained. Those usually don't get to court until we find who actually did it.

I know of a case where a guy got 30 years for doing the EXACT same thing Jamal Lewis did. Jamal got 3 months to serve in the offseason when he was hurt anyway. Difference - this guy was a ghetto kid who was handing off his business because he wanted out. Not a star running back handing off because he had a source of easier money.

But I've also seen a guy who embezzled $8mil go free because the investigator, while taking pictures of the area of the guy worked in, set down his can of Mt Dew. And there was a sign on the wall that said "No food or drink allowed". So the argument was "What other rules did you break?" and all his evidence got discredited to the jury.

I also know that most (and granted, not all) law enforcement won't take charging a felony lightly. They are not going to just say "Sure, type up the warrant. We'll see if I guessed right eventually!". Especially if there's a chance for national attention. You're going to be pretty damn sure before you make that call.

That is absurd. Everyone eats and drinks in rooms with those signs on the door. And drinking Mt. Dew doesn't directly impact the work. How could a jury actually be swayed by that?
 

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That is absurd. Everyone eats and drinks in rooms with those signs on the door. And drinking Mt. Dew doesn't directly impact the work. How could a jury actually be swayed by that?

The investigator did not follow rules. In this case, a credential peace officer. Police prejudice + fancy lawyer speak = some evidence tossed and a jury swayed.

The evidence tossed was the laptop collected at that office which is the one where he had the spreadsheet with his accounts and passwords. Case just kinda dried up without that admitted.
 

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"women tend to do these things" - wow.

Is Varly guilty? We don't know. He'll have his day in court. But there's way more than a 90% chance he did it.

What the fuck are you talking about romper room? Make sense next time.
Really ??? based on what Mr. prosecutor ? This is why I mention romper room, you pulling idiot comments out ur ass like a 4 year old.
 

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I know the BC Lions have a strong stance regarding violence against women (which I applaud by the way). I just wonder if Varly would still be in the lineup if he was currently a member of the Vancouver Canucks? Methinks he wouldn't be.
 

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It's just really sad that the NFL has the NHL beat in this regard. It's sad. Really sad. We claim that the NHL is the "nice guys" league, but don't do anything in this situation. Silly to me. Just silly.
 

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I know the BC Lions have a strong stance regarding violence against women (which I applaud by the way). I just wonder if Varly would still be in the lineup if he was currently a member of the Vancouver Canucks? Methinks he wouldn't be.

C'mon, thats not cool man.
 

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It's just really sad that the NFL has the NHL beat in this regard. It's sad. Really sad. We claim that the NHL is the "nice guys" league, but don't do anything in this situation. Silly to me. Just silly.

What has the NFL ever done to one of their criminals?

Other than that bully in Miami? They really took a stand on him.
 
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