Varlomov arrested on domestic violence charges

[jstewismybastardson]

I know the BC Lions have a strong stance regarding violence against women (which I applaud by the way). I just wonder if Varly would still be in the lineup if he was currently a member of the Vancouver Canucks? Methinks he wouldn't be.

cynic in me will say alot of that was reactionary in the wake of employing Josh Boden ... yikes

looking back ... i honestly cant believe the devoutly religious Wally Buono kept him on the team after all the allegations

 

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cynic in me will say alot of that was reactionary in the wake of employing Josh Boden ... yikes

looking back ... i honestly cant believe the devoutly religious Wally Buono kept him on the team after all the allegations

You're probably right, although in the end the Lions ended up doing the right thing (I guess you can argue they should have acted sooner).

/I have to think the Khalif Mitchell tweets were the catalyst that got him traded to the Argos (or at least the final straw).

 

[pixburgher66]

What has the NFL ever done to one of their criminals?

Other than that bully in Miami? They really took a stand on him.

They took a stand against Incognito because NAACP would probably get involved...

My point is there are a lot of guys cut from teams, suspended by teams, fined, etc. for far less than the allegations against Varly. The Miami situation is a good example...suspended there for texts/calls, NHL ignores a man who was arrested for far greater charges. I realize that they have a greater amount of criminals, but NHL fans like to think hockey players are good guys without these issues...when that's not the case. It's a violent sport and often athletes forget to compartmentalize their lives, and work comes home in a bad way.

 

[elocomotive]

Tyutin: "I Should Have Chosen My Words A Little Better" | BlueJackets Xtra

Fedor Tyutin chimed in.

He should have kept his mouth shut. BUT, at least he didn't claim his twitter was hacked or he was misunderstood, he owned that he said something stupid. So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

No more Tweetin' for Tyutin.

Ladies - who wants to step up and date Fedor...

"I personally know Semyon very well. He is quite a true, considerate guy. As soon as I heard it all, I realized that it is all blown (out of proportion).

"It's just American laws are on the women's side. That's why they can go to the police for any little thing, complain and bring a lot of problems to men. That's why the only mistake of Semyon is that he got together with this girl."

 

[pixburgher66]

No more Tweetin' for Tyutin.

Ladies - who wants to step up and date Fedor...

HAHAHAHAHA. Oh man. Yeah. Right. I can't even develop words. Sorry Fedor, you didn't "chose the wrong words" you merely opened your mouth to show you're an ass. Just because they let you beat your women in Russia doesn't mean we allow it here.

 

[forty_three]

They took a stand against Incognito because NAACP would probably get involved...

My point is there are a lot of guys cut from teams, suspended by teams, fined, etc. for far less than the allegations against Varly. The Miami situation is a good example...suspended there for texts/calls, NHL ignores a man who was arrested for far greater charges. I realize that they have a greater amount of criminals, but NHL fans like to think hockey players are good guys without these issues...when that's not the case. It's a violent sport and often athletes forget to compartmentalize their lives, and work comes home in a bad way.

I think the NFL takes a stand on role players, not stars. In this case, the NHL is exactly the same. Remember Terrell Suggs allegedly poured bleach on a child and dragged his fiancee with a moving car. What stand did the league take on that? Other than provide him legal support...

If it was some backup, he'd have the book thrown at him. The NHL is ignoring it because he's a centrepiece on the NHL's "feel good" marketing story of this season. The hapless Avs turnaround at the hands of a rookie coach.

"I personally know Semyon very well. He is quite a true, considerate guy. As soon as I heard it all, I realized that it is all blown (out of proportion).

"It's just American laws are on the women's side. That's why they can go to the police for any little thing, complain and bring a lot of problems to men. That's why the only mistake of Semyon is that he got together with this girl."

You can almost see what he wanted to say, essentially, "He's a good guy, she's crazy. He should have never been with her." I have friends who I think should run for the hills too.

But he kinda missed that whole "Doesn't give him the right to do what he did."

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

They took a stand against Incognito because NAACP would probably get involved...

My point is there are a lot of guys cut from teams, suspended by teams, fined, etc. for far less than the allegations against Varly. The Miami situation is a good example...suspended there for texts/calls, NHL ignores a man who was arrested for far greater charges. I realize that they have a greater amount of criminals, but NHL fans like to think hockey players are good guys without these issues...when that's not the case. It's a violent sport and often athletes forget to compartmentalize their lives, and work comes home in a bad way.

I dont think those things typically happen based on allegations alone. Perhaps most of them have the foresight to at least wait to see if there is any truth at all to the allegations. Something you might consider as well. But then again, that might preclude you from taking a "holier than thou" position on it.

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

I think the NFL takes a stand on role players, not stars. In this case, the NHL is exactly the same. Remember Terrell Suggs allegedly poured bleach on a child and dragged his fiancee with a moving car. What stand did the league take on that? Other than provide him legal support...

If it was some backup, he'd have the book thrown at him. The NHL is ignoring it because he's a centrepiece on the NHL's "feel good" marketing story of this season. The hapless Avs turnaround at the hands of a rookie coach.







You can almost see what he wanted to say, essentially, "He's a good guy, she's crazy. He should have never been with her." I have friends who I think should run for the hills too.

But he kinda missed that whole "Doesn't give him the right to do what he did."

I didnt realize the case had already been tried and he was found guilty. can you provide us a link on that ?

 

[pixburgher66]

I dont think those things typically happen based on allegations alone. Perhaps most of them have the foresight to at least wait to see if there is any truth at all to the allegations. Something you might consider as well. But then again, that might preclude you from taking a "holier than thou" position on it.

Yes. They do happen on allegations. Also, Valamov was arrested. The case is still developing, etc. etc. Players in other leagues have been suspended on nothing more than allegations. I hate using the Roethlisberger example, but it's relevant. He was accused, never arrested, and suspended for 6 (brought back to 4) games, in a league that only plays 16. That was merely because of allegations. I'll admit this was more than likely a PR move than an attempt to show mercy to potential victims, but when you consider that relevance to this situation in the NHL...the NHL missed the boat. Even outside of pro sports, I'd say a majority of people would be suspended or put on leave from their place of work if these allegations and an arrest occurred. It's not a traffic ticket here.

 

[puckhead]

cynic in me will say alot of that was reactionary in the wake of employing Josh Boden ... yikes

looking back ... i honestly cant believe the devoutly religious Wally Buono kept him on the team after all the allegations

part of me thinks that Wally felt he could rehabilitate a local guy. but yikes is a good word.
his wiki page has one paragraph on his football career, and his criminal career is broken down into subsections by year.
2012 was so busy, that was broken down by month Josh Boden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pixburgher66]

Semyon Varlamov, Avalanche goalkeeper, charged with assault in domestic violence incident - The Denver Post

The DA will be pursuing assault charges against Varlamov for the October incident. It's a misdemeanor charge. I'll be interested to see if the Avs do anything considering they backed him up. Obviously this isn't a guilty verdict, but if the DA is pursuing it, a trial is coming.

 

[elocomotive]

So, if found guilty of assault, the penalty could range from probation to up to two years in jail. Smart money would be on some kind of plea deal that gets him probation, unless the prosecutor wants to try to make an example of him or the evidence is really strong (or both).So, if found guilty of assault, the penalty could range from probation to up to two years in jail. Smart money would be on some kind of plea deal that gets him probation, unless the prosecutor wants to try to make an example of him or the evidence is really strong (or both).

Really ??? based on what Mr. prosecutor ? This is why I mention romper room, you pulling idiot comments out ur ass like a 4 year old.

I based my comments on my experience in the legal field and my knowledge of conviction rates. Sure, there are occasions where the one-armed man did it, but the majority of the time when the DA presses charges, the person did it. And even when they aren't convicted, they often did it. That's why I said there's a 90%+ chance he did it. I didn't say 100%. And that's my opinion - which I'm entitled to and which happens to be a rather informed one on the topic.

So, if you want to get all dramatic because you're an Avs fan - knock yourself out (or give Varly a call ) . I get it - YOUR goalie couldn't possibly have done this! But you'll be the only one looking like an idiot.

That is absurd. Everyone eats and drinks in rooms with those signs on the door. And drinking Mt. Dew doesn't directly impact the work. How could a jury actually be swayed by that?

Because juries are filled with people, and lots of people are stupid. I once served on a jury for felony possession of stolen property. The judge gave us several instructions, one of which was that we could not use the fact that the defendant ran from the police prior to his arrest as evidence of his guilt. We went into the jury room to make our decision and the FIRST fucking thing someone says is "Well, he is obviously guilty because why else would you run from the police?!?"

 

[mattola]

I based my comments on my experience in the legal field and my knowledge of conviction rates. Sure, there are occasions where the one-armed man did it, but the majority of the time when the DA presses charges, the person did it. And even when they aren't convicted, they often did it. That's why I said there's a 90%+ chance he did it. I didn't say 100%. And that's my opinion - which I'm entitled to and which happens to be a rather informed one on the topic.

So, if you want to get all dramatic because you're an Avs fan - knock yourself out (or give Varly a call ) . I get it - YOUR goalie couldn't possibly have done this! But you'll be the only one looking like an idiot.

 

[forty_three]

Because juries are filled with people, and lots of people are stupid. I once served on a jury for felony possession of stolen property. The judge gave us several instructions, one of which was that we could not use the fact that the defendant ran from the police prior to his arrest as evidence of his guilt. We went into the jury room to make our decision and the FIRST fucking thing someone says is "Well, he is obviously guilty because why else would you run from the police?!?"

The best part of going to training classes is I get to hear all the horror stories of things that a) Juries don't understand and b) sleazy tricks defense attorneys pull.

One guy who was with a 3 letter agency that typically doesn't have much of a sense of humor was telling the class about an iPhone investigation he was doing. He mentioned that the defendant knew the accomplice because of them being friends on facebook. So the defense attorney went on a tirade to get the evidence dismissed because the warrant specifically stated that the iPhone was to be seized and investigated, and facebook doesn't reside "on" the iPhone. Therefore the investigator acted outside the bounds of the search warrant by looking at facebook and all the evidence was inadmissable.

To which the investigator said "And there are 3 pictures of the two of them at King's Dominion together on the phone.". Seems the defense guy had pinned the whole case on getting the phone evidence thrown out. Dumb ass. He had to know about the pictures.

 

[pixburgher66]

I based my comments on my experience in the legal field and my knowledge of conviction rates. Sure, there are occasions where the one-armed man did it, but the majority of the time when the DA presses charges, the person did it. And even when they aren't convicted, they often did it. That's why I said there's a 90%+ chance he did it. I didn't say 100%. And that's my opinion - which I'm entitled to and which happens to be a rather informed one on the topic.

So, if you want to get all dramatic because you're an Avs fan - knock yourself out (or give Varly a call ) . I get it - YOUR goalie couldn't possibly have done this! But you'll be the only one looking like an idiot.

"The Fugitive" reference? Nice.

 

[elocomotive]

Lol.

 

[elocomotive]

"The Fugitive" reference? Nice.

Yes.

"I didn't kill my wife!!"

And then Tommy Lee Jones is all "I don't care," but it turns out... he DID care!

 

[IPostedWhat]

After formally being charged with one count of third-degree assault last week by the Denver District Attorney, Colorado Avalanche goaltender Semyon Varlamov next faces a Dec. 2 court date.

Depending on how the case is resolved will affect Varlamov's status with the Russian Olympic team, which has already seen a politician claim an American conspiracy with all this.

Now comes Russian Olympic general manager Alexei Kasatonov chiming in believing that the netminder's play since the arrest shows that he's innocent.

“Semyon’s in good form now, continuing to show that he’s one of the best goaltenders in the NHL and showing with his game that the truth is on his side,” Russian national team general manager Alexei Kasatonov said on the website of the SKA St. Petersburg KHL team.

In another apparent reference to the domestic abuse charge, Kasatonov said that Varlamov “is not that kind of guy and would not be capable of such a dirty deed.”

Y! SPORTS

 

[pixburgher66]

Y! SPORTS

WOULD A GUILTY MAN PLAY THIS WELL?! I THINK NOT!


Brings a whole new meaning to the word deluded. Guilty or not, that's an asinine correlation to draw. My word.

 

[BlueWolfZero]

WOULD A GUILTY MAN PLAY THIS WELL?! I THINK NOT!


Brings a whole new meaning to the word deluded. Guilty or not, that's an asinine correlation to draw. My word.

Lawyers will say anything to get their client off. This shouldn't surprise anyone.