Ugh Seattle just got even more harder to beat.

[BOB11]

1m[/ame] And [URL="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn"]@Edwerderespn reports Jared Allen has reached agreement with Seahawks.


I really hope the 49ers have an awesome draft,because I don't like watching everyone around us getter better.

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

yeah the gap is widening between us and them. hopefully the contract is bad.

The cards got better too with Cromartie added and a great deal....1 year contract.

 

[Ltrain]

how can they afford Allen? He wanted $10M/year!

 

[ChrisPozz]

how can they afford Allen? He wanted $10M/year!

He was looking for around 10 if he went elsewhere. He knew going in that if he was serious about Seattle that he'd have to take less.

 

[Pattersonca65]

1m And @Edwerderespn reports Jared Allen has reached agreement with Seahawks.


I really hope the 49ers have an awesome draft,because I don't like watching everyone around us getter better.

Wouldnt worry too much. Allen accroding to Scouting Reports skills have been in sharp decline and has lost alot of quickness. There is a reason other teams passed om him

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

Wouldnt worry too much. Allen accroding to Scouting Reports skills have been in sharp decline and has lost alot of quickness. There is a reason other teams passed om him

he still has been a double digit sack guy with a shit secondary

 

[Pattersonca65]

he still has been a double digit sack guy with a shit secondary

We will see. If he was that good he would have gotten his money.

 

[purguy12]

This sucks

 

[ChrisPozz]

he still has been a double digit sack guy with a shit secondary

Part of that is due to the high number of pass rushing snaps Allen has participated in. For the last three years he's ranked first each year in the number of pass rushing snaps he's played in. In 2010 he was 4th, in 2009 he was 9th, in 2008 he was tied for 2nd, and in 2007 he was down to 15th.

If you look at his pass rush productivity number where hits and hurries are also counted in and then factored in with the number of pass rush snaps a player got, it doesn't look quite as impressive for him. Here are his ranks for 4-3 DEs when you factor that in:

2013 - 28th out of 37 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2012 - 16th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2011 - 8th out of 41 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2010 - 13th out of 34 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2009 - 9th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2008 - T-2nd out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2007 - 15th out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.

I don't want to get too wrapped up into looking at this type of number because there are so many schematic and outside factors that go into painting this picture but what I solely would like to point out that Allen's sack numbers are high but part of that is due to the high number of rushing snaps he gets and when you compare them to others and factor it in on a per snap basis, his pass rushing ability doesn't look quite the same and he's actually starting to fall off a bit in recent times. Playing next to better talent could obviously help and boost him back up some, but I think all of these things are things that should be thought of when looking at him.

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

Part of that is due to the high number of pass rushing snaps Allen has participated in. For the last three years he's ranked first each year in the number of pass rushing snaps he's played in. In 2010 he was 4th, in 2009 he was 9th, in 2008 he was tied for 2nd, and in 2007 he was down to 15th.

If you look at his pass rush productivity number where hits and hurries are also counted in and then factored in with the number of pass rush snaps a player got, it doesn't look quite as impressive for him. Here are his ranks for 4-3 DEs when you factor that in:

2013 - 28th out of 37 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2012 - 16th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2011 - 8th out of 41 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2010 - 13th out of 34 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2009 - 9th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2008 - T-2nd out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2007 - 15th out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.

I don't want to get too wrapped up into looking at this type of number because there are so many schematic and outside factors that go into painting this picture but what I solely would like to point out that Allen's sack numbers are high but part of that is due to the high number of rushing snaps he gets and when you compare them to others and factor it in on a per snap basis, his pass rushing ability doesn't look quite the same and he's actually starting to fall off a bit in recent times. Playing next to better talent could obviously help and boost him back up some, but I think all of these things are things that should be thought of when looking at him.

Hmmmm...interesting numbers and insight. Thanks for sharing that.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Part of that is due to the high number of pass rushing snaps Allen has participated in. For the last three years he's ranked first each year in the number of pass rushing snaps he's played in. In 2010 he was 4th, in 2009 he was 9th, in 2008 he was tied for 2nd, and in 2007 he was down to 15th.

If you look at his pass rush productivity number where hits and hurries are also counted in and then factored in with the number of pass rush snaps a player got, it doesn't look quite as impressive for him. Here are his ranks for 4-3 DEs when you factor that in:

2013 - 28th out of 37 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2012 - 16th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2011 - 8th out of 41 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2010 - 13th out of 34 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2009 - 9th out of 43 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2008 - T-2nd out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.
2007 - 15th out of 44 qualifying 4-3 DEs.

I don't want to get too wrapped up into looking at this type of number because there are so many schematic and outside factors that go into painting this picture but what I solely would like to point out that Allen's sack numbers are high but part of that is due to the high number of rushing snaps he gets and when you compare them to others and factor it in on a per snap basis, his pass rushing ability doesn't look quite the same and he's actually starting to fall off a bit in recent times. Playing next to better talent could obviously help and boost him back up some, but I think all of these things are things that should be thought of when looking at him.

He should have more opportunity to rest playing for Seattle. But fewer opportunities. It will be interesting to see what he does.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

He'll be a situational pass rusher on our D … Pete rotates the line allot and Allen will be a 3rd down guy for us… This is a very nice pick-up for us… definite upgrade over Clem at this point.. Looking forward to seeing the numbers… Possible he took less because he won't play nearly as many downs with us..

 

[Pattersonca65]

He'll be a situational pass rusher on our D … Pete rotates the line allot and Allen will be a 3rd down guy for us… This is a very nice pick-up for us… definite upgrade over Clem at this point.. Looking forward to seeing the numbers… Possible he took less because he won't play nearly as many downs with us..

Nobody was going to pay him what he wanted and teams that initially had interest in him went elsewhere.. He had few alternatives. Take less or retire. He overestimated his worth.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Nobody was going to pay him what he wanted and teams that initially had interest in him went elsewhere.. He had few alternatives. Take less or retire. He overestimated his worth.

Agreed… But he's better than Ware at this point so you can't blame him for judging off that..

 

[darken65]

I just got home and looked around a bit...Is there any comfirmation of Allen agreeing to any terms? I know he was set for a second visit but heard nothing more after that.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Agreed… But he's better than Ware at this point so you can't blame him for judging off that..

Denver didnt think so.

 

[purguy12]

I would take ware. My opinion. Allen is a good get for you guys.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

I would take ware. My opinion. Allen is a good get for you guys.

Ware is a little more risky at this point with his injuries… Risk reward is there if the guy can get healthy next year, but the Broncos are really gambling on that one paying him what they did…

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

Agreed… But he's better than Ware at this point so you can't blame him for judging off that..

Highly disagree. I'm pretty high on Ware though and he think he has some left in the tank. Just had a real crappy year in a new system and injuries last year.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Highly disagree. I'm pretty high on Ware though and he think he has some left in the tank. Just had a real crappy year in a new system and injuries last year.

Ware is more of an every down player where Allen no longer is