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I'll reserve judgment on this Cesar guy until I see what he does for a bit as a pale hose.
I mean, he has a near 1,000 game body of work in the major leagues to assess his ability off of. I agree that he is certainly an upgrade, though. That and we didn't even give a top 20 prospect in our own system.
 

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Here's a bit more detail:


Again, nothing from which to get overly excited, but we do need some experience in the pen and Tepera fits the bill to a 'T'.
It's a pretty damn important pickup. Nobody besides Kopech has been worth a damn setting up for Hendricks and he's limited in how much he can pitch. In the post-season we can go Kopech/Tepera/Hendricks and not have to rely on Bummer/Ruiz/Crochet.
 

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I mean, he has a near 1,000 game body of work in the major leagues to assess his ability off of. I agree that he is certainly an upgrade, though. That and we didn't even give a top 20 prospect in our own system.
That fat bastard David Wells had like 300 starts before stinking up the joint for us. I’ll wait and see what any player does while donning the White Sox uniform before assessing them. Too many don’t live up…That said this guy is low risk filler so any kind of upside we get is gravy.
 

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He now leads the team in HR's as a gold glove 2nd baseman. We got him for our 23rd prospect (who is a AA pitcher).

We had a rather horrible 2nd base situation. Now we have a very solid everyday guy pacing for just under 30 HR's and has an elite glove. How is this not a good thing?
He’s an average player who is having a strange power surge this season. Gold glove is nice on a resume in a 60 gm season. This team needs an offensive difference maker either at 2nd or right field. Doesn’t look like we are going to get either. All the other top teams are adding major assets. Sox are sitting on their hands and just hoping the offense can get hot in the postseason. No an ideal strategy imo.
 

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That fat bastard David Wells had like 300 starts before stinking up the joint for us. I’ll wait and see what any player does while donning the White Sox uniform before assessing them. Too many don’t live up…That said this guy is low risk filler so any kind of upside we get is gravy.
That makes no sense. None. lol. A player's uniform dictates how much his performance weighs in an evaluation of his value to a major league team?

Nice anecdotal evidence, though. If I use Thome, Dye, etc. as an example... does that mean you're wrong here? I assume you would disagree.

No one is predicting the future with Hernandez. That's impossible. We are assessing the move that has been made and the kind of player that we have acquired. Of course, Hernandez could go 0 for 300 hitting for us. He could also go 300 for 300.

Why even post on a message board if there's no point in assessing, evaluating, and forming opinions to discuss? If we traded 6 dollars in cash for Max Scherzer tomorrow and then he struggled. Does that make Max Scherzer a bad pitcher since he had an off 2-3 months with the White Sox?

A 1,000 games is a rather large baseline to get an idea of who we have acquired. That's all anyone is doing here.
 

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He’s an average player who is having a strange power surge this season. Gold glove is nice on a resume in a 60 gm season. This team needs an offensive difference maker either at 2nd or right field. Doesn’t look like we are going to get either. All the other top teams are adding major assets. Sox are sitting on their hands and just hoping the offense can get hot in the postseason. No an ideal strategy imo.
Robert coming back is like a new player
 

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Hernandez also has playoff experience. I think it is a reasonable move. Maybe the Sox will try for one more guy for the Bullpen at the last minute.
 

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Hernandez also has playoff experience. I think it is a reasonable move. Maybe the Sox will try for one more guy for the Bullpen at the last minute.
Two guys with experience at two spots that needed fortification and look who we gave up to get them. While I've agreed that neither trade was anything eye popping, they were also no brainers that did virtually zero damage to our farm.
 

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Robert coming back is like a new player
Expecting robert, eloy, and and even grandal coming back and being themselves is asking too put imo. 2 coming of serious injuries and a catcher coming back from a knee surgery. If they do that would be fantastic but this deadline, to me, just exposing a cheap ass owner. Teams are eating players contracts to give up lower level Prospects. I still think the Sox drafting is a major issue too. Where is the depth? It’s great that your first rd picks and international signings are hitting but the depth in the farm is extremely thin for being terrible for so long prior to last yr.
 

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Why even post on a message board if there's no point in assessing, evaluating, and forming opinions to discuss? If we traded 6 dollars in cash for Max Scherzer tomorrow and then he struggled. Does that make Max Scherzer a bad pitcher since he had an off 2-3 months with the White Sox?

LOL...Yes...End all message boards because I want to wait and see before I evaluate a player and his contribution to my team.

And the answer to your Scherzer question is yes...If a player comes in and sucks ass for the White Sox, then I would rather have the $6 and I could give a sh*t if he did well for the any other team.

Dude's a rental and a low demand one at that as nobody would even top some AA no name for him...There's a reason for that. On the face it's a fine move....But if he hits .100 for the remainder of the season and goes 0-fer in the playoffs the trade will be bad...If he plays great I will post glorious posts about how I want him to have my manbabies. Time will tell. I'm not ESPN...I don't need to grade a player/trade until I see the end of the the...Story?!? End of the Story!!! STORY!!! GET IT!?!? STORY?!? * SLAPS KNEE* I KILL ME!!!!
 

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Im hearing Kimbrel to Sox but no details yet.
 

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Im hearing Kimbrel to Sox but no details yet.
Red or White??

Red Sox have been talking to the Cubs about getting him back since last week.

Cubs wanted way too much back then. They may be heading back to earth in the next 90 minutes.
 

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Madrigal and Heuer. Not happy about losing Madrigal

Heuer walks too many batters for me
 

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Red or White??

Red Sox have been talking to the Cubs about getting him back since last week.

Cubs wanted way too much back then. They may be heading back to earth in the next 90 minutes.
white
 

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Innings 7-9 should be on lock now between Kopech, Kimbrel and Hendricks
 

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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kimbrel is legit, and under contract for next year too. Sucks to lose Madrigal but not for this year and is that position really so hard to fill? I like this deal. Pitching is king in the playoffs.
 

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Innings 7-9 should be on lock now between Kopech, Kimbrel and Hendricks
Sox now have the best overall pitching in the AL
 
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