Top 32 tournament LF Bonds vs Williams

[UK Cowboy]

And I originally said this:

But Nos couldn't comprehend what I saw saying so I had to dumb it down and use concrete (figurative) numbers

No, he called you out on your bullshit

 

[Omar 382]

No, he called you out on your bullshit

How so? Did he somehow prove that a smaller number of inferior players is indicative of a higher talent level than a larger quantity of better players? I must have missed that somewhere.

 

[Mondo Jay]

As for the EBT stat - that can be explained as the difference of having RHB hitting behind Williams or much of his career and not having the opportunity to go to third on singles hit to left field. Bonds had many more opportunities to have switch hitters (like Bobby Bonilla) and LHH (like Keff Kent) hitting when he was on first - which could have resulted in more singles to right field - which are much easier to convert into 1st and third situations (and 1st and third situations appear to be the difference in this stat).

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[Omar 382]

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That's what happens when you have guys feigning intelligence about a certain topic.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

Ted Williams missed 3 entire seasons in the prime of his career.

This stat to me, is amazing. The season before he went to war (.356/.499 OBP 36 homers 137 RBIs 1.147 OPS), he then misses 3 seasons and the very next season he returns, 1946, he does this (.342/.497 OBP 38 homers 123 RBIs 1.164 OPS). He didn't miss a beat

Ted Williams may be the most naturally gifted baseball player of all time, and the proof is in those numbers.

 

[Cedrique]

Ted Williams missed 3 entire seasons in the prime of his career.

This stat to me, is amazing. The season before he went to war (.356/.499 OBP 36 homers 137 RBIs 1.147 OPS), he then misses 3 seasons and the very next season he returns, 1946, he does this (.342/.497 OBP 38 homers 123 RBIs 1.164 OPS). He didn't miss a beat

Ted Williams may be the most naturally gifted baseball player of all time, and the proof is in those numbers.

I agree completely with that statement. I can understand how some people picked Bonds as the better player in this exercise because of his base stealing, defense and the fact that he had more exceptional complete seasons but Williams stats as a hitter are amazing. He also went back to war in Korea in 52 and 53 and put up a 7.8 WAR season in 117 games in '54.

 

[Omar 382]

I agree completely with that statement. I can understand how some people picked Bonds as the better player in this exercise because of his base stealing, defense and the fact that he had more exceptional complete seasons but Williams stats as a hitter are amazing. He also went back to war in Korea in 52 and 53 and put up a 7.8 WAR season in 117 games in '54.

Stop patronizing him. Korea wasn't even a fucking war!

 

[Cedrique]

Stop patronizing him. Korea wasn't even a fucking war!

yes, but Williams had a great "WAR" in the time immediately before and after that "Military Action"

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Stop patronizing him. Korea wasn't even a fucking war!

might be an unpopular topic, but we always talk about how these baseball players were also heroes because they fought in the war... as true as this is, I do find it a little interesting that such a low percentage of MLB players died in the war... More so have we heard of any PTSD issues by these Heroes...

Now, I am not trying to say they are not heroes, just I have no clue whether they actually did much in the wars...

 

[Omar 382]

might be an unpopular topic, but we always talk about how these baseball players were also heroes because they fought in the war... as true as this is, I do find it a little interesting that such a low percentage of MLB players died in the war... More so have we heard of any PTSD issues by these Heroes...

Now, I am not trying to say they are not heroes, just I have no clue whether they actually did much in the wars...

Exactly! If you didn't die, get a leg amputated, or become an alcoholic directly after the war ended, you're no hero in my mind

 

[molsaniceman]

might be an unpopular topic, but we always talk about how these baseball players were also heroes because they fought in the war... as true as this is, I do find it a little interesting that such a low percentage of MLB players died in the war... More so have we heard of any PTSD issues by these Heroes...

Now, I am not trying to say they are not heroes, just I have no clue whether they actually did much in the wars...

Unlike many athletes who were pressed into military service, Williams was involved in active combat during the Korean War. Flying a total of 39 missions, he lost part of his hearing and survived many extremely dangerous situations. He also became close friends with another fellow Marine pilot. John Glenn

 

[Omar 382]

Unlike many athletes who were pressed into military service, Williams was involved in active combat during the Korean War. Flying a total of 39 missions, he lost part of his hearing and survived many extremely dangerous situations. He also became close friends with another fellow Marine pilot. John Glenn

"Hearing loss." Give me a break. What a pussy! He was probably blasting Radiohead in his Walkman too loud (they didn't have iPods back then)

 

[Cedrique]

Garry Maddox was a Vietnam Vet. I remember when I was a little kid in the early 80's every now and then he would be in a slump and they would speculate whether he was affected by "Agent Orange" (I think it was some kind of chemical warfare that was used in Vietnam)

 

[Cedrique]

"Hearing loss." Give me a break. What a pussy! He was probably blasting Radiohead in his Walkman too loud (they didn't have iPods back then)

You got the wrong era there. Teddy ballgame was before that. He had those giant headphones blasting Foghat through his portable 8-track player (the military was too cheap to install one in the planes back then)

 

[Omar 382]

You got the wrong era there. Teddy ballgame was before that. He had those giant headphones blasting Foghat through his portable 8-track player (the military was too cheap to install one in the planes back then)

Yeah, maybe. But we can't discount his steroid withdrawal with that "ear injury." Back then, you had to go through rigorous drug testing just to even be considered to be able to serve in war (remember there was no draft back in those days like there is today). Having played in the steroid era, Williams had to go cold-turkey off the "juice" and a big side effect of that is hearing loss because your brain isn't pumping enough dopamine to your auditory canal

 

[molsaniceman]

You got the wrong era there. Teddy ballgame was before that. He had those giant headphones blasting Foghat through his portable 8-track player (the military was too cheap to install one in the planes back then)

try back a littler further foghat was the 70s

 

[blstoker]

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Brain fart. I was wrong on this one.

 

[Cedrique]

try back a littler further foghat was the 70s

My brain gets a little scrambled sometimes from mixing the pain pills with the cough medicine. Last night I dreamed I was part of a TV series called "BJ and the Monkey" , where I drove a long haul trucking rig with my pet Grizzly bear riding along with me.

 

[obxyankeefan]

My brain gets a little scrambled sometimes from mixing the pain pills with the cough medicine. Last night I dreamed I was part of a TV series called "BJ and the Monkey" , where I drove a long haul trucking rig with my pet Grizzly bear riding along with me.

 

[dredinis21]

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You know what makes this pic amazing? The bear? Nooooooo. The beautiful mane of hair? Nope. Those acid wash jeans though!