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So, we're just going to ignore the first statement?

Texas sucks regardless of whatever other argument you want to make about the B12.

because the first statement is pure ignorance. You realize it is easier for Bama to recruit in LA, Mississippi, and Georgia than is for Tech to recruit Houston. Easier for South Carolina to recruit Georgia, NC, and even the DC area than it is for Tech to recruit Houston. It almost like distance makes it easier to recruit. You should look at a map. It shouldn’t take you long to figure it out. In state thing is vastly over-rated compared to the ability of parents to drive to a game. It’s why OU has always recruited Texas well and particularly the Dallas area. It’s because Norman is actually slightly shorter distance to Dallas than Austin
 

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So this is the year Tom gets fired when y'all don't get it done on the field.
He's not getting fired unless he has a losing season. AD just made a big commitment by giving him a mulligan on his staff. Yurkich and Ash both have 2 year deals.

Tom may very well get fired after the 21 season, but he's at least done his job restocking the depth chart with some quality players, make it much easier for the next coach.
 

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because the first statement is pure ignorance. You realize it is easier for Bama to recruit in LA, Mississippi, and Georgia than is for Tech to recruit Houston. Easier for South Carolina to recruit Georgia, NC, and even the DC area than it is for Tech to recruit Houston. It almost like distance makes it easier to recruit. You should look at a map. It shouldn’t take you long to figure it out. In state thing is vastly over-rated compared to the ability of parents to drive to a game.
Yeah but Tech can get all the studs that play on 6 man football in the panhandle.. plus Northeast NM?!? Not sure how Tech isn't a juggernaut
 

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He's not getting fired unless he has a losing season. AD just made a big commitment by giving him a mulligan on his staff. Yurkich and Ash both have 2 year deals.

Tom may very well get fired after the 21 season, but he's at least done his job restocking the depth chart with some quality players, make it much easier for the next coach.

I might take that bet. I would make the O/U line 8 games.. Win less and Tom is surely done. 9 or more he is coming back. I am not sure at 8 wins
 

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I might take that bet. I would make the O/U line 8 games.. Win less and Tom is surely done. 9 or more he is coming back. I am not sure at 8 wins
He's not losing 4 games in 2020. It will have to be another season of freak injuries, him blowing up on Yurkich and taking back the playcalling for him to have 4 losses. I think the floor is 9-3, but I expect a 10-2 season with spot in the CCG.

There's no need to start another freshman along OL, much less anywhere on the roster. Even 5 star stud Bijan and Collins won't be getting starting snaps. Bijan has two really good RBs in front of him and Collins has quality bigs ahead of him too.

Only real weakness on this roster is at LB where there are some gifted players but also young again. And also the unproven WR group outside of Eagles.
 

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He's not losing 4 games in 2020. It will have to be another season of freak injuries, him blowing up on Yurkich and taking back the playcalling for him to have 4 losses. I think the floor is 9-3, but I expect a 10-2 season with spot in the CCG.

There's no need to start another freshman along OL, much less anywhere on the roster. Even 5 star stud Bijan and Collins won't be getting starting snaps. Bijan has two really good RBs in front of him and Collins has quality bigs ahead of him too.

Only real weakness on this roster is at LB where there are some gifted players but also young again. And also the unproven WR group outside of Eagles.

I don’t think Collins plays early. I hope Bijan does. He will be the no worse than the second best RB with the ball in his hands when he steps on campus. Things like pass protection may hold him back. Roschon was a great story, teammate, and young man, but he isn’t a great RB.
 

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look how cute you are, you frustrated by an argument and turn into a 5 year old.

In order for there to be an argument you would have to refute my point.

If you want to get in a slap fest about whether or not Texas sucks I am more than happy to oblige, y'all have left plenty of ammunition laying around.

We could argue about your assertion that the B12 is tops for coaching instead, lol. I'll go first, The SEC has 10 head coaches that have a National Championship ring as a head coach or coordinator and the GOAT. What does the B12 have?
 

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In order for there to be an argument you would have to refute my point.

If you want to get in a slap fest about whether or not Texas sucks I am more than happy to oblige, y'all have left plenty of ammunition laying around.

We could argue about your assertion that the B12 is tops for coaching instead, lol. I'll go first, The SEC has 10 head coaches that have a National Championship ring as a head coach or coordinator and the GOAT. What does the B12 have?

I like the coordinator comment. That is a nice meaningless drop of BS. That mean I am supposed to think Muschamp is better than a guy like Gundy? Keep the fluff coming.
 

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because the first statement is pure ignorance. You realize it is easier for Bama to recruit in LA, Mississippi, and Georgia than is for Tech to recruit Houston. Easier for South Carolina to recruit Georgia, NC, and even the DC area than it is for Tech to recruit Houston. It almost like distance makes it easier to recruit. You should look at a map. It shouldn’t take you long to figure it out. In state thing is vastly over-rated compared to the ability of parents to drive to a game. It’s why OU has always recruited Texas well and particularly the Dallas area. It’s because Norman is actually slightly shorter distance to Dallas than Austin

That's a shit argument, it's easier for Bama to recruit Abilene than it is for Tech too, because Tech is Tech and Alabama is Alabama. Tech is the outlier, so is Vanderbilt, what is the excuse for TCU, not close enough to Dallas?
 

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I don’t think Collins plays early. I hope Bijan does. He will be the no worse than the second best RB with the ball in his hands when he steps on campus. Things like pass protection may hold him back. Roschon was a great story, teammate, and young man, but he isn’t a great RB.
Rojo is a stud as a RB..
 

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That's a shit argument, it's easier for Bama to recruit Abilene than it is for Tech too, because Tech is Tech and Alabama is Alabama. Tech is the outlier, so is Vanderbilt, what is the excuse for TCU, not close enough to Dallas?
Abilene doesn't have the kids that warrant a bag like the one Saban gave to Waddell's "uncle"
 

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That's a shit argument, it's easier for Bama to recruit Abilene than it is for Tech too, because Tech is Tech and Alabama is Alabama. Tech is the outlier, so is Vanderbilt, what is the excuse for TCU, not close enough to Dallas?

you mean a small private school with a limited history? Vanderbilt is a 4 hour drive to Atlanta, why are they excused despite a reasonable drive to one of the best recruiting grounds in the country?
 

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I like the coordinator comment. That is a nice meaningless drop of BS. That mean I am supposed to think Muschamp is better than a guy like Gundy? Keep the fluff coming.

No, but since Gundy is probably the 3rd best coach in the Big 12, that isn't who you are comparing him to is it?. Muschamp is about 10th in the SEC in my book.
 

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No, but since Gundy is probably the 3rd best coach in the Big 12, that isn't who you are comparing him to is it?. Muschamp is about 10th in the SEC in my book.
"in MY BOOK"

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He's not losing 4 games in 2020. It will have to be another season of freak injuries, him blowing up on Yurkich and taking back the playcalling for him to have 4 losses. I think the floor is 9-3, but I expect a 10-2 season with spot in the CCG.

There's no need to start another freshman along OL, much less anywhere on the roster. Even 5 star stud Bijan and Collins won't be getting starting snaps. Bijan has two really good RBs in front of him and Collins has quality bigs ahead of him too.

Only real weakness on this roster is at LB where there are some gifted players but also young again. And also the unproven WR group outside of Eagles.

For the love of God it’s spelled, Yurcich.

My buddy actually played for him when he was the OC at Edinboro college. I never forget he called and told me Yurcich got a coordinator job at Okie St the year after being a coordinator at D2 Shipp. I still didn’t believe him until I saw it in the program when we played them in 2013 lol.
 

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In order for there to be an argument you would have to refute my point.

If you want to get in a slap fest about whether or not Texas sucks I am more than happy to oblige, y'all have left plenty of ammunition laying around.

We could argue about your assertion that the B12 is tops for coaching instead, lol. I'll go first, The SEC has 10 head coaches that have a National Championship ring as a head coach or coordinator and the GOAT. What does the B12 have?

No chance the B12 has the best coaching. I’d say the 3rd best but wouldn’t argue they are 4th in coaching.
 

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you mean a small private school with a limited history? Vanderbilt is a 4 hour drive to Atlanta, why are they excused despite a reasonable drive to one of the best recruiting grounds in the country?

Limited history? TCU? With 13 major bowl appearances, 2 National Championships and a Heisman Trophy winner that the Top QB award is literally named for? Whose last 11 win season was three years ago. Vs Vanderbilt with none of the above and whose last 11 win season was NEVER.

Even then, the reason that Vanderbilt gets a pass is that they have a 9.1% acceptance rate, versus 47.1% for TCU.
 

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Limited history? TCU? With 13 major bowl appearances, 2 National Championships and a Heisman Trophy winner that the Top QB award is literally named for? Whose last 11 win season was three years ago. Vs Vanderbilt with none of the above and whose last 11 win season was NEVER.

Even then, the reason that Vanderbilt gets a pass is that they have a 9.1% acceptance rate, versus 47.1% for TCU.
Yeah but Vandy has been SEC SEC SEC for how long?

EDIT: I hate the frogs by the way
 

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Limited history? TCU? With 13 major bowl appearances, 2 National Championships and a Heisman Trophy winner that the Top QB award is literally named for? Whose last 11 win season was three years ago. Vs Vanderbilt with none of the above and whose last 11 win season was NEVER.

Even then, the reason that Vanderbilt gets a pass is that they have a 9.1% acceptance rate, versus 47.1% for TCU.

we are using acceptance rates now?? Basically it seems any school that doesn’t recruit at a high level has an excuse. If they are in the Big 12 that are held to a different standard. The fact for both of them is they are small private schools. Outside of ND, small private schools don’t compete at a high level in college football.


And TCU’s record is a reason that so many have respect for Patterson’s ability to sweat and coach. He has the school at their ceiling, despite the school claiming NC in 1935 and 1938.. Times are just a bit different now
 
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