Tommy Armstrong will be tough to beat out

[NE1tm2nv]

I look around and I think apathy is really starting to set in for huskernation as a whole.

Yep.... Big time

 

[Dimes]

Lets get the obvious out of the way, I'm new here. However, I've been a Husker fan for a very long time and have been lingering on this site for several months. So, you can either trust my intent or attack the messenger.

Red Alert adds nothing when the chips are down. His comparisons don't induce logic. When he tells kids what he did as a kid and they are just stupid kids, he is projecting how he felt about himself. He doesn't have a degree in psychology or know how to handle his emotions when he isn't getting his way.

Here is the bottom line to me. Throw out the past, and ask yourself what you have and what you believe. If you believe Nebraska can be a championship caliber team then you have to ask yourself what is missing?

The answer isn't Tom Osborne. I can remember my father being so happy in the 1993 Orange Bowl telling me the Huskers would win when we passed on our first play. He was wrong. We lost, 27-14 to FSU. What I remember prior to our streak was lots of stories about how we ran the ball too much and rumblings of how close Coach was to being canned in the 70s for coming up short in bowl games.

The answer isn't a winner. Mike Riley is a winner and not just by Oregon State standards. A certain person will scoff, but he is also a winner by Bear Bryant's standardsand take a peek at the resume and what people in the know say about him. I don't think a man at the end of his career that had opportunities at his alma mater and a more marquee job (USC) would take a job in a flyover state unless? Unless he had balls the size of our state in the belief that he was going to be able to end his career on top. So why are you lacking belief?

Because your subconscious is trying to fill in blanks to what is happening now, and those blanks aren't about then. Don't worry about Osborne, nor Solich, Callahan or Pelini. Worry about your family and doing your job and enjoying Saturdays because you know what they mean to you and you know we are in a transition.

I would worry if in two years this staff had not adapted to the Big 10. They are going to also rest on their laurels and play what they know. THEY WILL HAVE TO EVOLVE. Just like Tom had to evolve to get over the hump and recruit Florida and speed at the corners. Just like Bo didn't and assaulted the fans, right or wrong, it doesn't matter, he didn't evolve. Either being better in his approach towards us or cleaning up the gameplans in the second half.

The answer is we are missing a team that has depth. A coaching staff that is green to the culture of the Big 10 and tradition of NU and will need to evolve. Lastly a fan base that acts more and more like Ryan Leaf ever year we are removed from glory. We are not entitled to anything, we work our tails off and show up when the game is on the line.

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory."

This team doesn't have depth and many playmakers. Accept it. This is a work in progress. If you are a fan of the program, swallow it and don't start showing the most emotion around your family all week over a football loss. I'm excited about the future gentleman, because I know a man that was comfortable to bet his family's life and his legacy on Nebraska when nothing was motivating him accept his own desire to do something bigger. For those that want to quit, five games in, well all I can say is get your head out of 1997. We haven't won a conference championship since 1999. But you forget, what it took in terms of failure from 1971 till 1995.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

I think Jed had to eat a burrito filled with cat food because of the miami loss also......

Little did he know the burrito was actually filled with dog shit instead.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

RA for real though, please don't go down this negative path the whole year.

So it's only Ok when you do it?

 

[Brasky]

So it's only Ok when you do it?

Valid point. I'm trying really fucking hard to not be that guy this year. Old me goes off the deep end over a loss like this. Is that apathy or maturity? I don't know.

I just know this season isn't over, and he's acting like it is.

I reserve the right to change my tune if we get blown out.

Those are the losses I can't take.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I mean, Brasky is positive and negative.......which is the way it should be.

He doesn't just pile it all on one or the other.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

If we win the next 5 games the RA's of the world are still going to insist that our coach is a loser because of what happened at Oregon State.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

If we win the next 5 games the RA's of the world are still going to insist that our coach is a loser because of what happened at Oregon State.

You need to realize this is the staff that supposedly had all this experience and opposed to the prior staff. I just didn't see it this week, nor on the final drive/play of the BYU game. RA is in many ways right, I think it would be a shit board if everyone stated the same thoughts and saw eye to eye....

...like this >>>>

 

[blkflagmafia]

Knowing Mike Riley teams, we'll beat Wisconsin.

Even beating wisky wont help...

Were at the point he needs to win out to win back the fan base. Its bad when supporter are simply saying we have to give him time...I've been a supporter but sat was disgraceful

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Lets get the obvious out of the way, I'm new here. However, I've been a Husker fan for a very long time and have been lingering on this site for several months. So, you can either trust my intent or attack the messenger.

Welcome and thanks for your input.
I am one to give MR time to implement but I walked away from today's game having to muster everything within me to try to believe we are on the right path.
Adapting to the B1G was an excuse BP could use because he had recruited for the B12. MR does not have that luxury though. He does have a excuses regarding depth and previous coaching. Buthe is an expereienced coach with a team recruited for this conference and the concerns from this game have nothing to do with conference.

1)Nothing against TA, he is possibly the only thing holding this team together right now but this staff either called plays to throw 50 yards or better into or with a 30 mile hour wind.
2) With little more than 5 minutes left in the game we instead of pounding the football and running out the clock we are throwing on first down and then trying to play catch up on down yardage. We were effectively using 1 down out of four possible to run the ball and use up clock. With 5 minutes left Illinois should have never got the ball back. Hell if you are using 4 downs you only have to get a couple yards each down and Illinois could not stoop our running game but due to poor play calls, poor coaching for our quarter back to understand clock management or mismanagement on our coaching staff itself we give the ball back to Illinois with 4 minutes knowing they will pass and we can not defend it.
I felt sick to my stomach at this point because I knew we had just lost the game BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR STAFF HAD JUST DID.

Concerns for over the course of the season, undisciplined play resulting in procedural penalties is a trending problem and the failure to develop players.

These are the two reasons I supported hiring Riley and neither are happening and right now I see no reason to think they will.

Riley is here and will be for at leas the next 3 so I am going to hope and pray he does a good job beccause I love my Huskers but right now I can't defend him anymore.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

Dimes, I and many here lived and rooted through the Devaney & Osborne years. Nebraska ran the ball most of the time and did very well verses most of the conference. Oklahoma State stacked 11 in the box so the Huskers had great passing numbers and were the most balanced against them. Oklahoma always was an adventure as they had better talent most years. From 1990 to 1993 the biggest change was the recruitment of speed on Defense after Osborne played Washington and lost. Play action passing was effective as most teams geared up to stop the run and option game. History lesson aside this staff didn't go with the plays that were working best against Illinois and that is the single most disturbing thing about yesterday. Clock management was piss poor and directly contributed to that loss. If Riley and Co. can't see that, admit that, and change that, then the fan base and players have a big problem. Big money donors will let Eichorst know how they feel and trust me no AD wants to piss off the money donors of means. This staff has enough talent to get the job done, but they have to put their players in the position to win. Given Riley's extensive experience I expected more out of him.

 

[Red_Alert]

Hi, I'm new here.

It's almost as if someone was trying to cover a point spread instead of just taking the win.

PS: Riley is a loser and has always been a loser.
PSS: Dimes is a fheg who chokes on loser chode.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

Lets get the obvious out of the way, I'm new here. However, I've been a Husker fan for a very long time and have been lingering on this site for several months. So, you can either trust my intent or attack the messenger.

Red Alert adds nothing when the chips are down. His comparisons don't induce logic. When he tells kids what he did as a kid and they are just stupid kids, he is projecting how he felt about himself. He doesn't have a degree in psychology or know how to handle his emotions when he isn't getting his way.

Here is the bottom line to me. Throw out the past, and ask yourself what you have and what you believe. If you believe Nebraska can be a championship caliber team then you have to ask yourself what is missing?

The answer isn't Tom Osborne. I can remember my father being so happy in the 1993 Orange Bowl telling me the Huskers would win when we passed on our first play. He was wrong. We lost, 27-14 to FSU. What I remember prior to our streak was lots of stories about how we ran the ball too much and rumblings of how close Coach was to being canned in the 70s for coming up short in bowl games.

The answer isn't a winner. Mike Riley is a winner and not just by Oregon State standards. A certain person will scoff, but he is also a winner by Bear Bryant's standardsand take a peek at the resume and what people in the know say about him. I don't think a man at the end of his career that had opportunities at his alma mater and a more marquee job (USC) would take a job in a flyover state unless? Unless he had balls the size of our state in the belief that he was going to be able to end his career on top. So why are you lacking belief?

Because your subconscious is trying to fill in blanks to what is happening now, and those blanks aren't about then. Don't worry about Osborne, nor Solich, Callahan or Pelini. Worry about your family and doing your job and enjoying Saturdays because you know what they mean to you and you know we are in a transition.

I would worry if in two years this staff had not adapted to the Big 10. They are going to also rest on their laurels and play what they know. THEY WILL HAVE TO EVOLVE. Just like Tom had to evolve to get over the hump and recruit Florida and speed at the corners. Just like Bo didn't and assaulted the fans, right or wrong, it doesn't matter, he didn't evolve. Either being better in his approach towards us or cleaning up the gameplans in the second half.

The answer is we are missing a team that has depth. A coaching staff that is green to the culture of the Big 10 and tradition of NU and will need to evolve. Lastly a fan base that acts more and more like Ryan Leaf ever year we are removed from glory. We are not entitled to anything, we work our tails off and show up when the game is on the line.

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory."

This team doesn't have depth and many playmakers. Accept it. This is a work in progress. If you are a fan of the program, swallow it and don't start showing the most emotion around your family all week over a football loss. I'm excited about the future gentleman, because I know a man that was comfortable to bet his family's life and his legacy on Nebraska when nothing was motivating him accept his own desire to do something bigger. For those that want to quit, five games in, well all I can say is get your head out of 1997. We haven't won a conference championship since 1999. But you forget, what it took in terms of failure from 1971 till 1995.

Welcome, and thanks for that post. Hope you stick around, despite the heated atmosphere surrounding the board right now. Losses tend to bring out the worst in things. Glad to have you on board

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Hi, I'm new here.

It's almost as if someone was trying to cover a point spread instead of just taking the win.

You have really become quite the troll.

 

[HuskerPower52]

I am glad that the fan base isn't divided...

 

[Red_Alert]

You have really become quite the troll.

As I've said before. I'm going to tell it like it is.

Riley is a loser, and has always been a loser. You are stuck with said loser and his loyal friends for assistant coaches for at least 4 years. That is going to set this program back to Kansas Jayhawk levels.

Losses like these are easier to take when they are upsets (a la Iowa St 1992)(Ariz St 1996). When you know they are an aberration and that the team will learn a lesson from not taking every opponent seriously. Unfortunately that is not the case here. This was a should win. A must win for bowl eligibility.
They lost to a team that is for all practical purposes an equal. That is how bad Nebraska is. Illinois bad. With a 6.5 point spread, everybody seems to know that except Kool-Aid drinking Husker fans.

It was a loss to another first year at his program head coach (Bill Cubit) who is also a loser.

Riley is a nice guy. Let's see how much you like nice guys four years from now when this losers "Diamonds in the Rough", that nobody else see's anything in, are still losing.

 

[Red_Alert]

Mark my words.

The sell-out streak ends by the end of 2016.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Lets get the obvious out of the way, I'm new here. However, I've been a Husker fan for a very long time and have been lingering on this site for several months. So, you can either trust my intent or attack the messenger.

Red Alert adds nothing when the chips are down. His comparisons don't induce logic. When he tells kids what he did as a kid and they are just stupid kids, he is projecting how he felt about himself. He doesn't have a degree in psychology or know how to handle his emotions when he isn't getting his way.

Here is the bottom line to me. Throw out the past, and ask yourself what you have and what you believe. If you believe Nebraska can be a championship caliber team then you have to ask yourself what is missing?

The answer isn't Tom Osborne. I can remember my father being so happy in the 1993 Orange Bowl telling me the Huskers would win when we passed on our first play. He was wrong. We lost, 27-14 to FSU. What I remember prior to our streak was lots of stories about how we ran the ball too much and rumblings of how close Coach was to being canned in the 70s for coming up short in bowl games.

The answer isn't a winner. Mike Riley is a winner and not just by Oregon State standards. A certain person will scoff, but he is also a winner by Bear Bryant's standardsand take a peek at the resume and what people in the know say about him. I don't think a man at the end of his career that had opportunities at his alma mater and a more marquee job (USC) would take a job in a flyover state unless? Unless he had balls the size of our state in the belief that he was going to be able to end his career on top. So why are you lacking belief?

Because your subconscious is trying to fill in blanks to what is happening now, and those blanks aren't about then. Don't worry about Osborne, nor Solich, Callahan or Pelini. Worry about your family and doing your job and enjoying Saturdays because you know what they mean to you and you know we are in a transition.

I would worry if in two years this staff had not adapted to the Big 10. They are going to also rest on their laurels and play what they know. THEY WILL HAVE TO EVOLVE. Just like Tom had to evolve to get over the hump and recruit Florida and speed at the corners. Just like Bo didn't and assaulted the fans, right or wrong, it doesn't matter, he didn't evolve. Either being better in his approach towards us or cleaning up the gameplans in the second half.

The answer is we are missing a team that has depth. A coaching staff that is green to the culture of the Big 10 and tradition of NU and will need to evolve. Lastly a fan base that acts more and more like Ryan Leaf ever year we are removed from glory. We are not entitled to anything, we work our tails off and show up when the game is on the line.

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory."

This team doesn't have depth and many playmakers. Accept it. This is a work in progress. If you are a fan of the program, swallow it and don't start showing the most emotion around your family all week over a football loss. I'm excited about the future gentleman, because I know a man that was comfortable to bet his family's life and his legacy on Nebraska when nothing was motivating him accept his own desire to do something bigger. For those that want to quit, five games in, well all I can say is get your head out of 1997. We haven't won a conference championship since 1999. But you forget, what it took in terms of failure from 1971 till 1995.

Dimes, welcome, please stick around. I welcome new posters.

Not exactly sure why it is in the Tommy Armstrong thread. Your post is about the coaching staff.

Nebraska is stuck with Riley until the Bo Pelini payout ends. Or until the shit really hits the fan.

To the board, not to anyone in particular

Since the coaching staff is blaming Tommy Armstrong for passes thirty and thirty one, and we can say passes one through ten were attempts to see how things went in the game, who is to blame for passing plays eleven through twenty nine being called?

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Negative energy. That means it's all your fault. Well yours and R_As.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

As I've said before. I'm going to tell it like it is.

Riley is a loser, and has always been a loser. You are stuck with said loser and his loyal friends for assistant coaches for at least 4 years. That is going to set this program back to Kansas Jayhawk levels.

Losses like these are easier to take when they are upsets (a la Iowa St 1992)(Ariz St 1996). When you know they are an aberration and that the team will learn a lesson from not taking every opponent seriously. Unfortunately that is not the case here. This was a should win. A must win for bowl eligibility.
They lost to a team that is for all practical purposes an equal. That is how bad Nebraska is. Illinois bad. With a 6.5 point spread, everybody seems to know that except Kool-Aid drinking Husker fans.

It was a loss to another first year at his program head coach (Bill Cubit) who is also a loser.

Riley is a nice guy. Let's see how much you like nice guys four years from now when this losers "Diamonds in the Rough", that nobody else see's anything in, are still losing.

I understand that perfectly. You are not the only person that feels that way and your support is growing every week. Don't quite understand where the calling people fags and liars comes in though.