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Tom Brady had absolutely nothing to do with this win.

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It's unbelievable how the Patriots win games like this. Just the entire team playing amazing ball. It's hard to believe. Tom Brady is really lucky to be in the situation he is. Playing in a shit division, playing for the greatest coach ever, always having elite teams, etc. I can't think of a more lucky player in the history of the NFL. Good on him though. Makes for a great story. Even a below average 6th round pick can have a shot in the NFL. Wow.
 

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It's unbelievable how the Patriots win games like this. Just the entire team playing amazing ball. It's hard to believe. Tom Brady is really lucky to be in the situation he is. Playing in a shit division, playing for the greatest coach ever, always having elite teams, etc. I can't think of a more lucky player in the history of the NFL. Good on him though. Makes for a great story. Even a below average 6th round pick can have a shot in the NFL. Wow.

So you just stopped lying to others, but not yourself?
 

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So you just stopped lying to others, but not yourself?

Without Edelman and Gronk, Brady was exposed for what he is, a game manager at best. But he's the GOAT when it comes to accomplishments.
 

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300 yards passing 2 tds... Yup, he sucks :nod:

Both to Gronk. Almost 2/3's of the yards went to him and Edelman. Brady knows how to utilize his weapons, I'll give him that.
 

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Patriots really did play an absolutely complete game outside of inconsistent defense on third down.
 

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Both to Gronk. Almost 2/3's of the yards went to him and Edelman. Brady knows how to utilize his weapons, I'll give him that.

Do you even hear yourself? Was Brady supposed to throw the ball to himself?
 

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Take away all the TDs Jerry Rice caught, and Joe Montana was a piece of shit.
 

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Take away all the TDs Jerry Rice caught, and Joe Montana was a piece of shit.

I feel the same way about Joe Montana. Played on the some of the best teams ever and had plenty of surrounding weapons to throw to. Accomplishments are great and all and that's what makes them better on all time lists, but that doesn't make them a better athlete at QB than Marino and Manning were.
 

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Pats fans have the O line, Gronk, and Edelman to thank for this win.
 

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It's unbelievable how the Patriots win games like this. Just the entire team playing amazing ball. It's hard to believe. Tom Brady is really lucky to be in the situation he is. Playing in a shit division, playing for the greatest coach ever, always having elite teams, etc. I can't think of a more lucky player in the history of the NFL. Good on him though. Makes for a great story. Even a below average 6th round pick can have a shot in the NFL. Wow.

He's still the flux capacitor that makes it all run.
 

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I feel the same way about Joe Montana. Played on the some of the best teams ever and had plenty of surrounding weapons to throw to. Accomplishments are great and all and that's what makes them better on all time lists, but that doesn't make them a better athlete at QB than Marino and Manning were.

Peyton Manning is 40-48 vs winning teams and has more one and done's than anyone. Brady has the best all-time winning % vs. winning teams, and has 4 Super Bowls.

Might not make him a better "athlete" (whatever that means), but it definitely makes Brady the far better NFL player.
 

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Peyton Manning is 40-48 vs winning teams and has more one and done's than anyone. Brady has the best all-time winning % vs. winning teams, and has 4 Super Bowls.

Might not make him a better "athlete" (whatever that means), but it definitely makes Brady the far better NFL player.

So Tom Brady plays for a better organization than Peyton Manning has. Thank you Captain Obvious.
 

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He's still the flux capacitor that makes it all run.

Definitely. He does have to throw it out there. The Patriots gameplan to make that as easy as possible. As they should. Really every team should do this. It's the smartest thing any team could ever do.
 

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...and don't forget about your team too, [thank-them] for beating us week-17.....ok...?? :clap:

Yeah. I feel like the team had a collective wake up call there. "Holy shit, we just got beat by the Dolphins. We gotta play better." Oh well. Denver or Pittsburgh will take care of them.
 

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....GO STEELERS..!,.....I gotta find something yellow/black to ~wave~ tomorrow......*grabs-underwear*.....
 

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Yeah. I feel like the team had a collective wake up call there. "Holy shit, we just got beat by the Dolphins. We gotta play better." Oh well. Denver or Pittsburgh will take care of them.
.....loss dropped us to 2nd-seed,.....we won/today and hopefully ''host'' next week....YAY...!
 

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Definitely. He does have to throw it out there. The Patriots gameplan to make that as easy as possible. As they should. Really every team should do this. It's the smartest thing any team could ever do.


I'm glad he is a game manager. Only led the NFL with Td's and almost another 5k season, despite handing ball off last game vs your team. First game manager with 50 td's and only 2 QB's ever with 3 seasons of 4800+ yards, him and Brees. he can't compete with the ballers like Manning and Favre guys are awesome
 

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I'm glad he is a game manager. Only led the NFL with Td's and almost another 5k season, despite handing ball off last game vs your team. First game manager with 50 td's and only 2 QB's ever with 3 seasons of 4800+ yards, him and Brees. he can't compete with the ballers like Manning and Favre guys are awesome

Whatever the Patriots do, it works very well. Kudos to Brady for having the greatest QB career in NFL history, but I just think there are more talented QBs. I don't really see how you can argue that. Same goes for Montana.
 
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