The real reasons why baseball games take forever...

[DirtDirtDirt]

18 minutes of actual action in a 3.5 hour game. Stick to hockey.

I believe the NFL is roughly 11 minutes of actual action

Its why MOST Europeans hate it

 

[soxfan1468927]

i dont like hockey in vegas. i hate unnatural hockey.

Love hockey, the NHL pisses me off sometimes though. Jeremy Jacobs is a HOFer...

 

[Center Ice]

i dont like hockey in vegas. i hate unnatural hockey.

And any beach team

 

[Center Ice]

Hey, if you want the highest Action to Time ratio, go with soccer.

Soccer comes in at #2. Hockey has 60 minutes of action in a 60 minute game.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Soccer comes in at #2. Hockey has 60 minutes of action in a 60 minute game.

Hockey games last longer than an hour. Soccer matches are 1:55 minutes or so and have 1:30 minutes of action.

 

[Center Ice]

Hockey games last longer than an hour. Soccer matches are 1:55 minutes or so and have 1:30 minutes of action.

I'm talking elapsed game time. Hockey is 3 X 20 minute periods and the clock doesn't start until the puck drops. It's number 1. Sure once you factor in Don Cherry and commercials it's 3 hours but the clock stops when action stops.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Love hockey, the NHL pisses me off sometimes though. Jeremy Jacobs is a HOFer...

yeah...puzzling on jacobs

the nhl started to lose me when they started putting hockey in swamps and deserts.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Hey, if you want the highest Action to Time ratio, go with soccer.

@DirtDirtDirt

 

[soxfan1468927]

I'm talking elapsed game time. Hockey is 3 X 20 minute periods and the clock doesn't start until the puck drops. It's number 1. Sure once you factor in Don Cherry and commercials it's 3 hours but the clock stops when action stops.

That's kind of a silly way to look at it. You could argue that when a football player is lining up, reading the defense, while the clock is running, that is "game action". Still takes 2.5 to 3 hours to complete those 60 minutes of game time. Which means you have 1.5-2 hours of down time. Soccer you have 15-20 minutes, and that's just half time.

 

[Wamu]

discuss

No.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No.

i said discuss!

 

[Wamu]

i said discuss!

Make me!

 

[soxfan1468927]

@DirtDirtDirt

 

[Clayton]

Soccer comes in at #2. Hockey has 60 minutes of action in a 60 minute game.

Yeah, but it means I'm watching hockey.

Sex is only like a couple of minutes of action and most guys probably base a good portion of their adult life around getting it on a regular basis. People don't need a great action ratio as long as the action is good.

I'd rather see them cut out the Ninth inning then put a limit on relievers but I realize that has a 0% chance of happening. I like strategy and specialization in baseball.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Yeah, but it means I'm watching hockey.

Sex is only like a couple of minutes of action and most guys probably base a good portion of their adult life around getting it on a regular basis. People don't need a great action ratio as long as the action is good.

I'd rather see them cut out the Ninth inning then put a limit on relievers but I realize that has a 0% chance of happening. I like strategy and specialization in baseball.

There's little strategy now, it's all done for the managers really. Most teams have their 7th inning guy, their 8th inning guy, and their 9th inning guy. They have their lefty specialist. They take out their pitcher when he's at 100 pitches. If he's getting bombed in the first few innings, they have a long relief specialist. It's plug and play. I don't think MLB needs to step in and make rules to prevent that, I think managers need to be willing to break from that mold in order to help their team win. Going against the formula can be a big advantage, but managers don't do it until the postseason it seems.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

There's little strategy now, it's all done for the managers really. Most teams have their 7th inning guy, their 8th inning guy, and their 9th inning guy. They have their lefty specialist. They take out their pitcher when he's at 100 pitches. If he's getting bombed in the first few innings, they have a long relief specialist. It's plug and play. I don't think MLB needs to step in and make rules to prevent that, I think managers need to be willing to break from that mold in order to help their team win. Going against the formula can be a big advantage, but managers don't do it until the postseason it seems.

Yup, managers' have been minimized.........Fire a manager, the next guy will operate mostly in the same exact way

 

[Clayton]

There's little strategy now, it's all done for the managers really. Most teams have their 7th inning guy, their 8th inning guy, and their 9th inning guy. They have their lefty specialist. They take out their pitcher when he's at 100 pitches. If he's getting bombed in the first few innings, they have a long relief specialist. It's plug and play.

That is specialization, though. High ball velocity makes pitchers very specialized as far as I can tell because it means you have every organization with a vested interest in micromanaging.

Also, you haven't been watching a bad manager coach in the NL. The bullpen is anything but plug and play with Matheny. I get the overall point, though.

 

[soxfan1468927]

That is specialization, though. High ball velocity makes pitchers very specialized as far as I can tell because it means you have every organization with a vested interest in micromanaging.

Also, you haven't been watching a bad manager coach in the NL. The bullpen is anything but plug and play with Matheny. I get the overall point, though.

Yes there is little strategy because it's so specialized.

And the Cardinals bullpen isn't very good. I'd like to see what manager would do things differently in St Louis. Is Matheny mis-managing the bullpen by doing something different? Or is following the formula a mis-management in itself? Because if so, that's my point.

 

[broncosmitty]

put a limit on relievers used in a 9 inning game. make the managers actually work harder.

Work with young talent on how to pitch, not how to maximize velocity.

Part of the issue with pitching and the over use of relievers is that focus. Throwers continue to gain value with franchises across baseball. And with the knuckleheads doing the throwing.


Unjuicing the ball would cut down on trot times also.

 

[Mondo Jay]

I love baseball, so I don't care how long games are. I can always stare at my phone like a zombie during pitching changes and sech.