The Philadelphia Flyers 2024 Off Season Thread

[Retroram52]

Even with Briere and Jones, we just don't make crisp, succinct, and excellent moves like the Avs just did. The Flyers just seem asleep during the draft.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Maybe that dman was more like Ghost and they don't need any more small ones. If this kid can fill 2C or be a top of the league 3C playing all roles it could turn out well. Don't forget they also received a 3rd for moving back one spot.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

You'd think they'd get more than just a future 1st for trading this years 1st.

 

[awaz]

And then they trade out of #32. Future oilers 1st for it though, in 2025 or 2026.

Get the feeling the Flyers really didn’t like this draft. Mentioned in the Walker deal they prioritized 2025 1st instead of 2024. Traded back from 12 for a 3rd in 2025. Now trading 32 for a 1st in a later draft.

So either Briere is being very patient here loading up for what’s supposed to be a very good 2025 draft, or he’s loading up to wheel and deal.

 

[awaz]

You'd think they'd get more than just a future 1st for trading this years 1st.

I guess it’s kinda like trading up in the 1st round for taking a later one? Assuming the Oilers don’t win the cup when the pick transfers.

 

[awaz]

Not a real fun night for the fans… doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll be bad long term. But man, big reach when a frequently mocked top 5 guy was there. Then traded out of the second first round pick.

 

[awaz]

You'd think they'd get more than just a future 1st for trading this years 1st.

Also would rather do this than get like #38 and #52 or something like that.

 

[awaz]

And the Jackets will keep #36.

So what looked like it could be a huge night for the flyers kinda just became kicking the can down the road a little bit.

Still waiting for the Edmonton trade conditions.

 

[awaz]

Seems like a lot of sources, and the flyers twitter, saying it’s a 2025 first. So maybe just some kind of lottery or top 10 protection.

Flyers likely looking at 3 firsts and 3 seconds for next year. In a draft they seem to like a lot. So, barring using those for trades, that’s essentially your rebuild right there.

 

[Sparhawk]

You'd think they'd get more than just a future 1st for trading this years 1st.

Seems like a lot of sources, and the flyers twitter, saying it’s a 2025 first. So maybe just some kind of lottery or top 10 protection.

Flyers likely looking at 3 firsts and 3 seconds for next year. In a draft they seem to like a lot. So, barring using those for trades, that’s essentially your rebuild right there.

Flyers get 2025 Edmonton 1st that is top-12 protected.
Short of Edmonton winning the cup, this appears to be good value.

And we have been saying how the cap become cleaner by 2026, so everything is lining up that way.

Have to believe they will trade Koncecny or ask him to take a very team friendly deal.

 

[eaglesnut]

And all due respect to Laughton, I want a hell of a lot more than Laughton with a 12th overall pick.

Laughton was the 20th pick. Not much lower.

 

[Maverick426h]

Yeah, we have suddenly STACKED our 2025 draft via a couple trades and Columbus keeping their 2nd this year. It's very likely that we'll have 8 picks in the first three rounds, 6 of those in the first two rounds.

Also, upon considering that the '25 draft is deeper than the '24 draft, even if Edmonton wins the Cup next season (which we all know they won't), the 1st round pick they traded to us will have arguably a lot more value than the 32nd overall pick that we gave them. No chance in hell that the Avs or Oilers will be picking top 10 or 12 next season either, so those are our 1st round picks.

Trading the 12th pick for the 13th and acquiring a 3rd in the process look great on paper, but not when you pass on a potential star offensive defenseman in the process. Right now, that is a tough pill for all of us to swallow.

Whether we actually make all of those picks next summer or not, that sure as hell is a lot of ammunition to wheel and deal in the '25 draft.

 

[purdue81]

Yeah, we have suddenly STACKED our 2025 draft via a couple trades and Columbus keeping their 2nd this year. It's very likely that we'll have 8 picks in the first three rounds, 6 of those in the first two rounds.

Also, upon considering that the '25 draft is deeper than the '24 draft, even if Edmonton wins the Cup next season (which we all know they won't), the 1st round pick they traded to us will have arguably a lot more value than the 32nd overall pick that we gave them. No chance in hell that the Avs or Oilers will be picking top 10 or 12 next season either, so those are our 1st round picks.

Trading the 12th pick for the 13th and acquiring a 3rd in the process look great on paper, but not when you pass on a potential star offensive defenseman in the process. Right now, that is a tough pill for all of us to swallow.

Whether we actually make all of those picks next summer or not, that sure as hell is a lot of ammunition to wheel and deal in the '25 draft.

See you all in September 2025 !

 

[Retroram52]

Yeah, we have suddenly STACKED our 2025 draft via a couple trades and Columbus keeping their 2nd this year. It's very likely that we'll have 8 picks in the first three rounds, 6 of those in the first two rounds.

Also, upon considering that the '25 draft is deeper than the '24 draft, even if Edmonton wins the Cup next season (which we all know they won't), the 1st round pick they traded to us will have arguably a lot more value than the 32nd overall pick that we gave them. No chance in hell that the Avs or Oilers will be picking top 10 or 12 next season either, so those are our 1st round picks.

Trading the 12th pick for the 13th and acquiring a 3rd in the process look great on paper, but not when you pass on a potential star offensive defenseman in the process. Right now, that is a tough pill for all of us to swallow.

Whether we actually make all of those picks next summer or not, that sure as hell is a lot of ammunition to wheel and deal in the '25 draft.

I agree Maverick. Clearly the Flyers FO didn't have much respect for this year's draft and were aiming for 2025 but to side step Buium was more evidence that the Flyers "miss things" or go to sleep when they should not. The Flyers may have found a diamond-in-the-rough or maybe he will turn-out to be trade fodder. That remains to be seen. But to deliberately side step a guy like Buium for a Third Rounder is stupidity that is a ghost from the recent past! Mind boggling!

 

[lasgop8]

After taking goalies in consecutive high round picks at last years draft and passing on a top 4 defenseman for a 3rd line center im thinking Brierres strong suit is not the draft.

 

[Retroram52]

It is working out that way lasgop and you may indeed be right because they sure as hell shit-the-bed on passing on Buium for a damn Third Rounder.

 

[purdue81]

It is working out that way lasgop and you may indeed be right because they sure as hell shit-the-bed on passing on Buium for a damn Third Rounder.

How much is this the scouting group trying to “outsmart” the rest of the hockey experts ? That would be a throwback to both Hextall and WTFC. Don’t remember if the scouting group was changed out when WTFC was terminated.

 

[Retroram52]

You might be right purdue!

 

[awaz]

How much is this the scouting group trying to “outsmart” the rest of the hockey experts ? That would be a throwback to both Hextall and WTFC. Don’t remember if the scouting group was changed out when WTFC was terminated.

I actually think a good amount of the scouts have been long term guys. Fletcher, Hextall, even back to Holmgren. Seems teams don’t turnover scouts as much which always seemed weird to me.

Only one I can think of that moved on was Chris Pryor who was promoted to assistant GM with Hextall and then follow d him to Pittsburgh.

Just looks to me like the zeroed in on taking a C in the first round. Apparently tried pretty hard to move up to 4/5, presumably to take Lindstrom. But the price was like 12, 32, and a 1st next year to do it. Rightfully decided not to do that, then Catton was gone and there really wasn’t another good C left. So they reached for Luchanko. Just seems like a faulty draft strategy to me and that would come from Briere/Jones.

 

[Retroram52]

I agree awaz. The tandem of Briere/Jones is fast gaining a rep in the eyes of the fans, as not so bright when it concerns the draft. We shall see how that plays out possibly all the way until next June.