THE PAC12 Thread

[4down20]

I think 4d20 was mentioning they dont update that sight any more. Kind of let it go... Not sure, but he was looking for another sight to get his stats from for his website.

I think they update the public stuff still. But in the past they had these feeds that had all kinds of stats in raw format that I could load up, and they got rid of those. You can still lookup stuff on their site, but I think it sucks, and it would have really sucked to try and get program data for it.

I use that cfbstats.com now, and it's better than the NCAA ever was anyway. Way more stats and stuff. They even have drive information.

 

[Olyduck]

awaiting the line for Charleston Southern @ Colorado line for week 8 pickem.

THis is the replacement game for Colorado that they had to schedule because of Fresno State game cancellation.

might not be one. not always a line on FCS

 

[Vitamike]

I saw this on some website and thought it was interesting.....

If a playoff started today, it would probably look like this:

Sugar Bowl: No. 1 Alabama vs No. 4 Clemson
Rose Bowl: No. 2 Oregon vs No. 3 Ohio State
Cotton Bowl: Texas A&M vs Baylor
Orange Bowl: Florida State vs South Carolina
Fiesta Bowl: UCLA vs LSU
Chick-Fil-A Bowl: Louisville vs Miami

 

[Olyduck]

also i forgot to factor in that game for Colorado standings so change to 3-9

 

[mcnabb7542]

Trying to figure how i see the remaining games for the Pac 12 going and how everyone finishes
North
Oregon 12-0 no surprise Im sure but Im not just being a homer I think its pretty legit. also on to win the conference and play in BCS title
Stanford 9-3 losing to UCLA and Oregon going to Alamo
Oregon State 9-3 losing to Stanford and Oregon going to Holiday
Washington 7-5 losing to Arizona State, UCLA and Oregon State going to Vegas
Washington State 6-6 losing to Oregon, Arizona State, and Washington going to at large to a bowl that doesnt fill in
Cal 3-9 losing to Oregon State, Washington, USC, and Stanford
South
UCLA 11-1 losing to Oregon and going on to the Pac 12 title game but losing holding on to go to Rose Bowl
Arizona State 8-4 losing to UCLA and Oregon State going to Sun
USC 7-5 losing to Oregon State, Stanford and UCLA going to Kraft fight hunger
Utah 7-5 losing to USC, Arizona State and Oregon going to New Mexico
Arizona 4-8 losing to Utah, Cal, UCLA, WSU, Oregon and Arizona State
Colorado 2-10 losing to Arizona, UCLA, Washington, Cal, USC and Utah

change your bowl picks around, If you have Ducks going to title game you still need the Rose Bowl in there, (Stanford) then if you want move everyone up one game...

 

[WhiteMamba]

change your bowl picks around, If you have Ducks going to title game you still need the Rose Bowl in there, (Stanford) then if you want move everyone up one game...

Rose wouldnt take a 3 loss PAC team. Each conference gets one auto. And if that were Oregon in the NATTY, then the next best were a 3 loss, most likely the BCS/Rose selection committee would take someone else over 3 loss PAC team.

 

[WhiteMamba]

plus Oly has UCLA with 1 reg season loss in Rose

 

[WizardHawk]

I have Washington hammering ASU.

Vs Ucla.... Too close to call for me.

vs OSU, I am a lean towards a Husky win right now. Too much Sankey and I think the defense will slow down Mannion just enough for a close victory. It is in OSU though. SO it wont be easy.... at all.

I agree Sankey is the best in the nation.
I still dont see DAT as a RB as much as a hybrid player and the way Marshall and Tyner have stepped up it woulndt surprise me to see less DAT in the backfield.
It isnt just that I see them losing every road game thats just part of it.
but when you factor in ASU is 4-2 all 4 wins at home, and like I said before riding 7 in a row against UW.
UCLA 5-0 this season, and have been pretty good at home.
Oregon state 5-1 and yes that 1 was FCS and at home but still I think they have bounced back from that and are playing strong.

I pretty much see it how Mamba does. I think they beat ASU, probably get beat fairly bad against UCLA, and I'd take OSU as a toss up/leaning toward UW right now, but subject to change.

I'm not trying to pick as a homer, but I have watched every down of UW ball this year and believe they are over their road woes of past years. I watched the same thing at Husky stadium this week, the hurry up offense takes a lot of the sting out of road crowd noise because they already use hand signals/silent counts and take plays so fast the crowd doesn't always have time to get up to full sound. At Illinois the UW offense played about as well as they do at home. If it wasn't for a couple of big plays late that game was more of a blowout than the final score showed. The defense played pretty well.

Only thing that worries me about UW this year is the secondary. Ducre is garbage IMO at corner. They gave up too many basic post routes to Oregon (yes, your WR's are fast, but jesus put a fucking safety out there will ya Wilcox?) and ducre got burned a couple of times this year and go routes. I think the UCLA game will be bad for us because Hundly will shred that secondary. Mannion is good, but I don't think their D is as solid as UCLA's and ASU isn't going to even slow down Sankey, plus I just don't think their QB can punish that secondary.

That's just how I see it.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

I believe ASUs defense is fixed. I just saw something last game, I know we played Colorado but moving Young back to spur and with Hood back it seems like our defense is where it is last year. Bradford had 1.5 sack last game and is back to his old self.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Rose wouldnt take a 3 loss PAC team. Each conference gets one auto. And if that were Oregon in the NATTY, then the next best were a 3 loss, most likely the BCS/Rose selection committee would take someone else over 3 loss PAC team.

Got it didn't read all the way down....

 

[asu_08]

I pretty much see it how Mamba does. I think they beat ASU, probably get beat fairly bad against UCLA, and I'd take OSU as a toss up/leaning toward UW right now, but subject to change.

I'm not trying to pick as a homer, but I have watched every down of UW ball this year and believe they are over their road woes of past years. I watched the same thing at Husky stadium this week, the hurry up offense takes a lot of the sting out of road crowd noise because they already use hand signals/silent counts and take plays so fast the crowd doesn't always have time to get up to full sound. At Illinois the UW offense played about as well as they do at home. If it wasn't for a couple of big plays late that game was more of a blowout than the final score showed. The defense played pretty well.

Only thing that worries me about UW this year is the secondary. Ducre is garbage IMO at corner. They gave up too many basic post routes to Oregon (yes, your WR's are fast, but jesus put a fucking safety out there will ya Wilcox?) and ducre got burned a couple of times this year and go routes. I think the UCLA game will be bad for us because Hundly will shred that secondary. Mannion is good, but I don't think their D is as solid as UCLA's and ASU isn't going to even slow down Sankey, plus I just don't think their QB can punish that secondary.

That's just how I see it.

You don't think the QB who leads the #9 passing offense in the country can punish your secondary? I think it comes down to whether or not your LBs can cover our RBs and TEs. Stanford and ND could do it. USC and Wisconsin could not. They were forced to bring in extra DBs and we were able to run the ball on tired d-lines in the second half. Well, we didn't put up too many rushing yards against Wisconsin because they were stupid and kept trying to press Strong.

In Seattle Washington probably blows us out, at a neutral site they probably win by 7, in Tempe I see it as a toss up right now. It'll be a good old fashioned shoot out.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

Yea TK is good. It comes down to whether or not UW can cover that back shoulder fade many teams have had problems with it all year, especially Wisconsin and if we didn't have Strong or Foster in those games we probably would of gotten blown out.

 

[Olyduck]

change your bowl picks around, If you have Ducks going to title game you still need the Rose Bowl in there, (Stanford) then if you want move everyone up one game...

If Oregon goes 12-0 and wins conference that would mean UCLA with a regular season loss and a loss in the PAC12CCG would still have to maintain a 14 ranking for at large bid. thats where I question it. they are top 10 right now and a win over Stanford and say a loss by an ACC team will move them just a little. UCF and Louiville could be interesting as well. but still not a lot of movement then its a matter of how much does a loss to oregon hurt them in the rankings? I would guess a slide from lets say 8 to 14. then you gotta ask how much can they climb in the final weeks after that? will UW still be a ranked team when they play? or AZ st? or USC back in? and then finally how much does another loss to Oregon in the Pac12ccg cost them?

 

[asu_08]

I believe ASUs defense is fixed. I just saw something last game, I know we played Colorado but moving Young back to spur and with Hood back it seems like our defense is where it is last year. Bradford had 1.5 sack last game and is back to his old self.

Bradford has been near unblockable for stretches this season but he's also gone MIA in others. We'll need him to step up next week.

Getting Randall back has also been huge. He's played like a monster the last two games. All of the big runs USC and Wisconsin had started with LBs missing tackles or safeties taking bad angles. Putting Young back at Spur and Randall at safety has helped a lot. If Ball can play the defense will be healthy for the first time all year.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

I still don't get how TK cant tear up any defense when he has weapons like Strong and Foster?

 

[asu_08]

I still don't get how TK cant tear up any defense when he has weapons like Strong and Foster?

Because our offensive line isn't that great.

 

[trojanfan12]

plus Oly has UCLA with 1 reg season loss in Rose

So Oly is predicting that UCLA loses to USC?

 

[yeodonie]

So Oly is predicting that UCLA loses to USC?

Nothing we've seen from USC at this point to suggest otherwise right?

 

[Vitamike]

So Oly is predicting that UCLA loses to USC?

As much as this hurts and with injuries to Jordon James, Torian White, I'll take door No. 1 Bob!!!!!!!

Give me one loss to the Trojans this season for sure.

That gives them a NT bid over most 1 loss teams IMO.

tf12 I doubt that ever happens...... you know..... lose to USC this year!

 

[Olyduck]

no 1 loss is to Oregon in 2 weeks.