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The Niners appear to be the 'home' team

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Rich Googlers selling a single share of GOOG to buy Super Bowl tickets?
 

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The volume for every team is high enough that what you’re describing is statistically irrelevant.
Not at all. Running YPC is highly circumstantial to things like how many box defenders there are, blocking, volume. These are all highly contextual things, and noisy. Team non-QB YPC does better than individual YPC, but it’s still subject to the same problems on a season to season basis; indicating there’s a lot of noise. Sample size being a full season or not.
 

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Not at all. Running YPC is highly circumstantial to things like how many box defenders there are, blocking, volume. These are all highly contextual things, and noisy.

Nevertheless, the high volume of runs accumulated by the end of the season causes those things to even out to the point that they are statistically irrelevant.

Yards per carry comes down to blocking, how dangerous the passing game is and RB talent.
 

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Nevertheless, the high volume of runs accumulated by the end of the season causes those things to even out to the point that they are statistically irrelevant.

Yards per carry comes down to blocking, how dangerous the passing game is and RB talent.
Quite to the contrary- I am saying 16-19 games is not adequate for sifting our statistical noise at RB-YPC, as it is a noisy and circumstantial position. YPC is therefore not an especially useful metric for determining the overall strength of a running game. DVOA takes far more context into account than YPC can.

RBsDontMatter has currency for a reason.
 

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I'm not much interested in the analytics and whatever....but what is this based on?

Defense-adjusted Value Over Average

DVOA calculates a team's success based on the down-and-distance of each play during the season, then calculates how much more or less successful each team is compared to the league average. (Football Outsiders)
 

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I'm not sure why KC is an unlikeable team. They're not notorious with a love/hate relationship that many fans have for teams like the Cowboys or Patriots. It's quite possible that the Niners are the more popular team between the two, but I doubt there's any type of KC hate out there just because they're the Chiefs. Makes no sense.
Mahomes and the track team. Guys like Garoppolo and Kittle are just likeable and its obvious that the team enjoys playing together
 

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:L. Literally everything you say is wrong and stupid. You are one dumb dude.

I cited averages per rush. Being run heavy or pass heavy has nothing to do with average yards per play.

Seek help.
So, you’re a dumbass when it comes to football too...

I feel shocked...
 

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Quite to the contrary- I am saying 16-19 games is not adequate for sifting our statistical noise at RB-YPC, as it is a noisy and circumstantial position. YPC is therefore not an especially useful metric for determining the overall strength of a running game. DVOA takes far more context into account than YPC can.

RBsDontMatter has currency for a reason.

:L Niners have more rushing attempts this season than the Chiefs do. Even by your own rationale, that’s another advantage Niners.

You’re grasping at straws. And you’re the only person on earth who thinks KC’s running game is anywhere near as good as the Niners’.
 

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So, you’re a dumbass when it comes to football too...

I feel shocked...

Oh wow. Your hate boner is so raging that you’re jumping on the Niners’-running-game-isn’t-better-than-the-chiefs’ bandwagon of derp? :pound:

Tell me more about how the Chiefs’ running game is just as good. :pop2: Seriously. Make an even bigger ass of yourself.
 

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:L Niners have more rushing attempts this season than the Chiefs do. Even by your own rationale, that’s another advantage Niners.

You’re grasping at straws. And you’re the only person on earth who thinks KC’s running game is anywhere near as good as the Niners’.
Often! Not always, because noise as I said. I am more into honesty than "owning" you. There's a reason I bolded one part of the post.

PFF pretty much is in the same camp as well. Two of the biggest analytics conglomerates/websites/whachamacallits don't really care much for the Niner running game.

You got caught with a silly talking point, got clowned, and then want to squirm out of it and hope I am too incompetent to shut it down and explain myself.

You still can't explain why YPC > DVOA.

Hurr durr, that can't be true, they must be dumb.
 

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At least if ticket sales are any indication that is:

As Super Bowl tickets climb into historical territory, data is pointing to the 49ers as the 'home' crowd

In a way it's a bit surprising. KC is at least geographically closer to Miami, which might account otherwise for a bit more cross country car traffic. And you'd think with not having played in a Super Bowl for 50 years, that would be incentive enough for Chiefs fans to scarf up tickets by the droves. But then again, there is a ton of $$$ in that Silicon Valley part of the Bay Area, so cost is certainly no object with the Niners crowd.
Well, Kareem Hunt kicking that girl's ass and Tyreek Hill abusing his son and threatening the life of his baby mama doesn't help.
 

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Often! Not always, because noise as I said.

“Noise.” Keep it nebulous & vague when you’re doubling down on stupid. :thumb:

It takes the Chiefs more rushes to get the same distance. And that even includes scrambling which is clearly advantage Chiefs.

You’re dumb, and you need help.
 

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“Noise.” Keep it nebulous & vague when you’re doubling down on stupid. :thumb:

It takes the Chiefs more rushes to get the same distance. And that even includes scrambling, which is clearly advantage Chiefs.

You’re dumb, and you need help.

Ah yes, the "I don't understand the material so I'll call it dumb" line of argument. Ad hominem arguments always work. Never fail.

You still can't explain why YPC is worth trusting over DVOA. Namely because you're full of shit and don't know what you're talking about.
 

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Oh wow. Your hate boner is so raging that you’re jumping on the Niners’-running-game-isn’t-better-than-the-chiefs’ bandwagon of derp? :pound:

Tell me more about how the Chiefs’ running game is just as good. :pop2: Seriously. Make an even bigger ass of yourself.
:lol:

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I didn’t make a claim as to who’s running game is better... just noting your dumbfuckery across forums. His point is relevant, but you’re too dumb to get why.
 

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Ah yes, the "I don't understand the material so I'll call it dumb" line of argument. Ad hominem arguments always work. Never fail.

I could’ve just said the word “noise” and declared myself right like you did.

Gullible people like yourself fall for BS like your non-stat you cited (and s**t like QBR).

You still can't explain why YPC is worth trusting over DVOA.

When the Niners run, they get more yards. When the Chiefs run, they get fewer yards. I’d say even you should be able to grasp that one, but the mental gymnastics you perform will stop any possible common sense.
 

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That's an extremely petty an ironic argument coming from a Golden State fan.
Don't forget the complete assholes Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill; women and child beaters both. That doesn't help the Chiefs.
 
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