The LeBron in Winter

[thunderc]

Translation: shut up and dribble

If you are going to be hypocritical exactly. If you want to be fair and not wrong go for it.

 

[trojanfan12]

Just wonder what stupid stuff are you talking about exactly? Don't mention that absurd Decision. Or that dumb Heatles welcome party. Those two topics have already been covered many times.

Saying that the Rockets GM should be fired for speaking out against China's human rights history and basically suggesting that the cop who shot the black girl who was trying to stab another black girl should be killed...weren't the best looks.

 

[thunderc]

Saying that the Rockets GM should be fired for speaking out against China's human rights history and basically suggesting that the cop who shot the black girl who was trying to stab another black girl should be killed...weren't the best looks.

Yup, and I’m sorry but he can’t get a pass for going against previous statements on the play in game just because it now affects you. Use the platform you have earned for good.

 

[shopson67]

I guess we are just to overlook the stupidity of him wanting to fire someone over the play in game after he had previously praised it, and of course approved as Vice President of the union. Sorry but I have no tolerance for hypocrisy or self serving stupidity, don’t care who it is.

I agree with him about the stupidity of the play in games. Teams that earn those 7th and 8th seed spots over 82 games should not be in position to lose that to a lesser team in one game. Look at this season; the Lakers or Pelicans being in position to steal the 7th or 8th seed, despite being 11 or 11.5 games back of that 7th seed is unnecessary and stupid IMO.

 

[Janus]

People that don't like him will always have an issue with him no matter what.

He's a quitter too, don't forget that one,

 

[trojanfan12]

LeBron is more outspoken on stuff than MJ and these guys don't like that

Magic and Bird never spoke out either. But they basically spent half of their careers trying to save the league and the other half trying to build its popularity...then MJ was trying to take it worldwide.

All 3 of them may just have not been into politics or social issues enough to comment...but it seems more likely that they were trying not to alienate anyone.

 

[shopson67]

Saying that the Rockets GM should be fired for speaking out against China's human rights history and basically suggesting that the cop who shot the black girl who was trying to stab another black girl should be killed...weren't the best looks.

Speaking out against your employers best interests typically will get you fired. The other situation I can't comment on as I am not familiar and did not grow up in that world with rightful fear of police violence. I assume in both cases he spoke before having all the information and spoke out of emotion.

 

[thunderc]

I agree with him about the stupidity of the play in games. Teams that earn those 7th and 8th seed spots over 82 games should not be in position to lose that to a lesser team in one game. Look at this season; the Lakers or Pelicans being in position to steal the 7th or 8th seed, despite being 11 or 11.5 games back of that 7th seed is unnecessary and stupid IMO.

He might have a point if he hadn’t previously said it was a good thing, and approved as VP of the union. Come on, be smarter than that. His actions are those of someone that just expects people to go with him no matter what he says.

 

[shopson67]

He's a quitter too, don't forget that one,

He's never forced his way off a team; he's always completed his contract, then moved on if he so wished; simple free agency movement.

 

[shopson67]

He might have a point if he hadn’t previously said it was a good thing, and approved as VP of the union. Come on, be smarter than that. His actions are those of someone that just expects people to go with him no matter what he says.

Well, that is what he's used to. How would you act if you had been treated as a superhero since you were 16? Probably like quite the ass, as would I.

 

[shopson67]

Magic and Bird never spoke out either. But they basically spent half of their careers trying to save the league and the other half trying to build its popularity...then MJ was trying to take it worldwide.

All 3 of them may just have not been into politics or social issues enough to comment...but it seems more likely that they were trying not to alienate anyone.

"Trying to save and grow the league" is a tad grandiose, don't you think lol? They were trying to win games and make money.

 

[trojanfan12]

I agree with him about the stupidity of the play in games. Teams that earn those 7th and 8th seed spots over 82 games should not be in position to lose that to a lesser team in one game. Look at this season; the Lakers or Pelicans being in position to steal the 7th or 8th seed, despite being 11 or 11.5 games back of that 7th seed is unnecessary and stupid IMO.

Yeah, I kind of see it both ways. If AD is healthy all year, it's pretty safe to say that the Lakers aren't anywhere near the play in game. So, if they get him back before the play in game, you can make the case that it's "setting things right".

On the other hand though, if injuries are part of the season, then you shouldn't be able to essentially "erase that" by winning a game or 2 at the very end when you're suddenly healthy.

 

[msgkings322]

Magic and Bird never spoke out either. But they basically spent half of their careers trying to save the league and the other half trying to build its popularity...then MJ was trying to take it worldwide.

All 3 of them may just have not been into politics or social issues enough to comment...but it seems more likely that they were trying not to alienate anyone.

Indeed, and LeBron is more outspoken and unafraid of alienating some folks. And that bugs people. Bugged them about Muhammad Ali and Bill Russell too.

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah, I kind of see it both ways. If AD is healthy all year, it's pretty safe to say that the Lakers aren't anywhere near the play in game. So, if they get him back before the play in game, you can make the case that it's "setting things right".

On the other hand though, if injuries are part of the season, then you shouldn't be able to essentially "erase that" by winning a game or 2 at the very end when you're suddenly healthy.

I like the playing because the 7 and 8 seeds are ceremonial and don't win titles.

 

[Wamu]

LeBron is more outspoken on stuff than MJ and these guys don't like that

Yep.

 

[trojanfan12]

Speaking out against your employers best interests typically will get you fired. The other situation I can't comment on as I am not familiar and did not grow up in that world with rightful fear of police violence. I assume in both cases he spoke before having all the information and spoke out of emotion.

He definitely did on the police issue and took the tweet down after he learned what really happened. Although, what he didn't do was own his mistake and apologize to the cop.

 

[thunderc]

Indeed, and LeBron is more outspoken and unafraid of alienating some folks. And that bugs people. Bugged them about Muhammad Ali and Bill Russell too.

I don’t recall Ali ever being hypocritical about anything though

 

[Wamu]

He's a quitter too, don't forget that one,

What you talking about? Please explain.

 

[Janus]

What you talking about? Please explain.

He throws a tantrum and leaves the game, quits on his team, Jordan never did that. Jordan played with the flu, Lebron sat games out with a stomach ache.
LeBron's a quitter, Jordan was not

 

[msgkings322]

I don’t recall Ali ever being hypocritical about anything though

What's LeBron a hypocrite about, specifically?