The Bears 2025 Draft Thread

[NCChiFan]

Cole Kmet is the epitome of your basic, average NFL TE.

And that's okay. In a good offense that is coached well...he could have a really nice season.

While true, Johnson's Detroit team ran one of the top 2 TE offenses in the NFL last season. Errm, forget the name of the formation, 12 man? Johnson ran a LOT of 12 man. Like the most in the NFL or at the least top 3-4 teams running that formation. (At least I believe I read that somewhere). Anyway, if he plans to do the same in Chicago, he will need a Second TE that is at least as good as Kmet.

 

[BearsWillWin]

While true, Johnson's Detroit team ran one of the top 2 TE offenses in the NFL last season. Errm, forget the name of the formation, 12 man? Johnson ran a LOT of 12 man. Like the most in the NFL or at the least top 3-4 teams running that formation. (At least I believe I read that somewhere). Anyway, if he plans to do the same in Chicago, he will need a Second TE that is at least as good as Kmet.

Bears ran a lot of 12 man last year too. It's the most used personnel package in the league, literally.

Know how many catches the rest of the TE's on Detroit's roster not named Sam LaPorta had? 14.

Brock Wright started 8 games. He's mostly a blocker that catches an occasional pass. Do you think Brock Wright is as good as Sam LaPorta? Why do we need a 2nd TE that's as good as Kmet?

The Bears signed Durham Smythe...he had 9 catches on 17 targets last season while starting in 4 gasmes. Had 35 catches the year before that and 34 in 2001.

You don't need a first round pick to find our Brock Wright.

 

[NCChiFan]

Bears ran a lot of 12 man last year too. It's the most used personnel package in the league, literally.

Know how many catches the rest of the TE's on Detroit's roster not named Sam LaPorta had? 14.

Brock Wright started 8 games. He's mostly a blocker that catches an occasional pass. Do you think Brock Wright is as good as Sam LaPorta? Why do we need a 2nd TE that's as good as Kmet?

The Bears signed Durham Smythe...he had 9 catches on 17 targets last season while starting in 4 gasmes. Had 35 catches the year before that and 34 in 2001.

You don't need a first round pick to find our Brock Wright.

Or our Kelce? What I hope for in a top 10 pick is someone who's upside is all pro. If not, the Bears have 2 second round picks. Now this team doesn't have an over abundance of all pro type players. That's what I would consider the goal for a top 10 pick. How the Bear's board has players ranked? No clue. That TE might be the #4 top rated player on their board... Or #13th in rank... Dunno... >shrugs<

And, depending upon how the draft above the Bears works out, I would not be opposed to a trade down. I've heard one speculator "expert" say that second ranked QB might fall to 10th pick, and it could be that a team in the mid tear might want to move up to grab him giving up a deep second round pick and a 1 in next years draft. (plus a 3rd but the Bears also give a 5 to make up the proper score equalization). Who knows.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

If we take a TE at 10, that's as damning of a statement on Cole Kmet as there ever was...but I have a hunch that Ben Johnson thinks Cole Kmet is the goods.

Like I said before, I would be absolutely shocked if we picked a TE at 10. Not just because of positional value, but because the Kmet theory (underutilized/bad scheme etc) is about to be tested and I think Johnson is a believer.

We all know how it ended up, but the patriots made it work with Gronk and Hernandez. I don’t think drafting Warren is an indictment of Kmets play or role on the team. If we draft Warren, then our 2 TE personnel will be dominant. Opposing teams will have to account for 4 different big receivers and then we can still run it down their throats.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Or our Kelce?

We have our Kyle Rudolph.

Meanwhile...we have holes elsewhere.

You can win with a Kyle Rudolph.

 

[BearsWillWin]

We all know how it ended up, but the patriots made it work with Gronk and Hernandez. I don’t think drafting Warren is an indictment of Kmets play or role on the team. If we draft Warren, then our 2 TE personnel will be dominant. Opposing teams will have to account for 4 different big receivers and then we can still run it down their throats.

Gronk was drafted in the 2nd round. Coming off a season in which a very good Patriots team finished 10-6. Not a ton of holes on that roster.

Hernandez was drafted in the 4th round. And played a different variation of the TE position than Gronk did. He was the H-back in NE's system and also lined up at WR a lot. Gronk was the Y tight end.

When you are already a winning team with a solid roster...you can draft like that. You have the luxury of getting creative because you aren't pressed to fill holes.

This isn't the position the Bears are in.

 

[BearsWillWin]

The Bears have needs.

None of those needs are tight end.

 

[Jiddy]

We all know how it ended up, but the patriots made it work with Gronk and Hernandez. I don’t think drafting Warren is an indictment of Kmets play or role on the team. If we draft Warren, then our 2 TE personnel will be dominant. Opposing teams will have to account for 4 different big receivers and then we can still run it down their throats.

Yeah...Dominance is an after the fact determination. Especially if we’re talking about the Chicago Bears offense.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Yeah...Dominance is an after the fact determination. Especially if we’re talking about the Chicago Bears offense.

True. I still wouldn’t mind drafting Warren.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Our starting LT sucks....we don't have a very good #3 receiver....pass rush is mediocre.....big drop off from #1 to #2 CB....light on the defensive interior....light on LB depth......S is suspect......BUT HOLY SHIT GUYS...HAVE YOU SEEN OUR BACKUP TE? MAKES OPPOSING DEFENSES SHUDDER.

 

[wood20ks]

True. I still wouldn’t mind drafting Warren.

Shit,Raiders took Bowers with holes everywhere........although they were still a bottom tier team,they did pretty damn well for themselves with that pick....Bowers had O'Connell,Minshew and Ridder throwing to him....If Warren is anything like Bowers and also plays a wr position,maybe thats why we have not gotten that 3rd wr yet.....so it all depends what Poles and Ben want.

But I still dont see them taking Warren at 1......

And theres another te out there(name escapes me right now),that could possibly be there at our first pick in the 2nd round.......

 

[NCChiFan]

Our starting LT sucks....we don't have a very good #3 receiver....pass rush is mediocre.....big drop off from #1 to #2 CB....light on the defensive interior....light on LB depth......S is suspect......BUT HOLY SHIT GUYS...HAVE YOU SEEN OUR BACKUP TE? MAKES OPPOSING DEFENSES SHUDDER.

Fact is we don't know how this draft will play out. But please, don't reach for a player at 10.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Fact is we don't know how this draft will play out. But please, don't reach for a player at 10.

Drafting a #2 TE....or converting your #1 TE to a #2 because you drafted a new one isn't a reach or a misuse of a pick when you have other needs?

 

[NCChiFan]

Drafting a #2 TE....or converting your #1 TE to a #2 because you drafted a new one isn't a reach or a misuse of a pick when you have other needs?

Like I mentioned above, it all depends on who is rated at what spot on the Bears board. If they have Warren with an instant starter, possible all pro, but they reach for a Tackle that has the potential to fight for a spot who ends up fizzling? I would rather have an all pro TE than a bust at say, WR like we have had in the past in the first round.

Understand, I'm not really advocating for the TE, but that the Bears have the luxury in round 1 of picking the best player available at #10, as long as it is a top tier player. This draft is supposed to only have 10 blue chip players in it. They have two shots at need at 39 and 41. I've seen mocks that have Graham dropping to the Bears at #10. Would there be a greater need at say Tackle or DE? or do you sprint to the podium to take Graham?

 

[BearsWillWin]

If they have Warren with an instant starter, possible all pro, but they reach for a Tackle that has the potential to fight for a spot who ends up fizzling? I would rather have an all pro TE than a bust at say

Warren....automatic all pro.

Anyone else....fizzles out.

What if Warren is the next Kyle Pitts? He was an instant starter out of college. Does not move the needle at all for the Falcons.

but that the Bears have the luxury in round 1 of picking the best player available at #10.

The thing is....they don't. No team coming off a 5 win season has a luxury. They are average 5 wins a year in the last 4 seasons. There are no fucking luxuries. No matter how many times you type it.

Would there not be a greater need at Tackle or do you sprint to the podium to take Graham?

I'd prefer an offensive tackle, personally. But I'd be totally cool with a DL, CB, or S. I could live with a RB if the dude falls to us but I don't think that's a necessity.

 

[NCChiFan]

I'd prefer an offensive tackle, personally. But I'd be totally cool with a DL, CB, or S. I could live with a RB if the dude falls to us but I don't think that's a necessity.

I was talking about how a player is assessed, floor to ceiling wise. Obviously, it is a best guess game, else Richard Dent would not have been an 8 round pick or Tom Brady a 6th round pick.

I do agree with your assessment, and if the Bears do nothing else but pick DL, CB, S, OT and RB with their picks, or some grouping of those, as long as they are not reaching I would also be ok with it.

 

[averagejoe]

Raiders took Bowers with holes

Raiders also drafted Michael Mayer 35th over all the year before. Raiders arent the litmus test for success imo.

 

[wood20ks]

Raiders also drafted Michael Mayer 35th over all the year before. Raiders arent the litmus test for success imo.

Thats exactly my point....

So what did that say to Mayer....??

Same as it says to Kmet.....

Who cares what that slug Kmet thinks,probably the same as it did Cousins when Atlanta drafted Penix,no one seen that coming,and neither did Kirk........it happens.
Justin Fields/Russell Wilson......

Like I said,I dont see us drafting Warren at kne myself,Im for trenches or Jeanty at 1....but if Poles and Ben seem to think Warren is ther guy,by all means,draft him and Ill be good with it....

 

[BearsWillWin]

Shit,Raiders took Bowers with holes everywhere

And they are definitely a franchise we should trying to emulate.

 

[wood20ks]

And they are definitely a franchise we should trying to emulate.

Maybe we should quit trying to emulate ourselves....our teams have been autrociuos.....
I'm tired ot watching this team get our hopes up then piss down their legs.....

So theres no difference than us vs the Raiiders....

Right now,once again,they are getting our hopes up.......so I just hope theres no excuses next season.....

But that was not the point......
Point was you think just cause Poles MAY think Warren is bpa,he should draft him.....

I,myself,like you think they should go elsewhere.....but if Poles thinks Warren is that next Bowers,then dont pass him up......one thing is for sure,Bowers and Warren wilk be better than anything cold cement will ever produce.......

Bowers is probably the best te in the league right now......and did that on a shitty team with shitty qbs throwing to him.....congrats Vegas you did a great thing.

I wonder how well Bowers would have done in our system last season compared to Rome......