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The 2024-2025 NBA Basketball Season

shopson67

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You play yourself acting like the Pacers were some type of victims of the Mailce in the Palace.

There were a lot of things wrong that night.

But damn. Ron Artest should have gone to jail and been kicked out of the league for life. That is how bad his response was. He ran up into the stands and attacked a fan because he got a beer thrown on him. AND, the man he attacked wasn’t even the person who threw the beer.

The fan who threw the beer and Artest should have both been charged criminally and banned. Many other fans should have also caught criminal changers. Other players (Wallace, JO, Captain Jack) should have all received lengthy suspensions. JO probably should have been 10 games or less. I think he got too much.

It was a messed up situation.

But Artest got off light.

All is forgiven for Artest because of this...

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what high level wings are on the market? if any?

a ton of teams could trade for Butler or Ingram if they wanted to

and a good team like the Thunder could trade for high level wing- but would also be giving up some of their core that makes them a good team in the first place.

best wings that MIGHT be available- if you ask me- are Porter Jr., maybe Markanenn (if you consider him a wing), I bet the Sixers wouldnt say absolutely no to Paul George (does he have a no -trade?).

Cam Johnson is available and hes pretty good. The Blazers would prob trade Grant for the right price. Maybe Indiana would trade Siakam.


I dont see one guy likely to be traded on the wing who is a big time difference maker. Though a guy like Siakam or Markannen could make a difference on a slightly above average team like the Lakers.

Mark can't be traded this season.
 

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They need his wing d

And they need alot of perimeter d

But they need spacing

Right now they need to rely on gabe Vincent finding his playoff form like with Miami (and why they gave him that craze contract)

They also need someone who can guard 3s next to Lebron

Their d is awful

I don’t think anyone besides bron brow and dfs should be off the table

Everyone besides Christie is a sieve on d and expendable in the right move

Reaves is not expendable and is not going anywhere unless a superstar deal requires it. Reaves on that contract is too valuable. I don't think they'll move Knecht either. DFS will be that guy to defend 3s next to Lebron, should overtake Rui for the starting spot in the near future. Vando is ramping up towards returning to practice this month, would be a huge help defensively if he's right.

If they can work out a trade for Kessler, I think a trade with the Bulls for depth pieces like Jevon Carter and Torrey Craig makes sense. If they want to aim higher, I'd see what the Pels want for Dejounte, curious to see if they can get him cheaper now than they could've from the Hawks.
 

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Thunder being rumored to be trading Kenrich Williams, Ousman Dieng, Brenden Carlson, 2 firsts and 2 seconds for Cam Johnson. I don’t like it because Kenrich is the locker room leader.
 

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They need a big man and Reaves is pretty bad defensive. Limited assets until Pelinka wants to give up picks. Maybe if he gave up picks years ago this would be a different story. He has been preparing for that rebuild for years now

He won't be around for that rebuild (hopefully)
 

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Thunder being rumored to be trading Kenrich Williams, Ousman Dieng, Brenden Carlson, 2 firsts and 2 seconds for Cam Johnson. I don’t like it because Kenrich is the locker room leader.

2 firsts? Must be lesser firsts I guess... who are they competing against for Cam right now that can offer more?
 

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wasn't just being young and first playoff experience that got them against NY? Not losing Wade, Allen and then Mitchell that got them against Cs?

Love Atkinson but if I could have this season's health and JB or last season's health and KA I take this season health and JB.

Guys like Mitchell can play 31-32 minutes because winning and mostly healthy. Have you noticed no Merrill and Okoro and he only plays 9 (just like last season)?
The offensive flow, scheme, etc is completely different with KA. That’s why the ceiling is higher. Even inbounding the ball is much easier with KA than JB. Sorry but JB’s offensive scheme, pace and flow was just not good. Less dribbling, more passing. It’s a 180.
Yes having less injuries helps bc you can rest players and they have a lot of depth but there is a reason for that. The main difference is coaching. KA is a magician with guards, he has the track record to back it up too
 
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2 firsts? Must be lesser firsts I guess... who are they competing against for Cam right now that can offer more?
Kings and Thunder are rumored to be the 2 leaders. Yes lesser firsts.
 
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