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Texas Rangers 2019-2020 Offseason Thread

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I like the fact that we have 5 starters instead of what we had in 2019 which was 2 good starters in Minor and Lynn and 3 holes. your whole plan seems to centered on "what can we get" not on having a decent team on the field. I know your whole mentality is "wait until 2021 or 2002 etc" some of us want to see the team do some competing now and 2020 and 2021 and so-on and not wait until your window opens to start it. we want the same thing in the end we just don't like your path
I will always exchange present "mediocre or slightly above that" for "slightly below mediocre" now and "better" in the future. It is akin to putting aside money into savings now, even though it gives you less to spend now, so you can enjoy the money more in the future.
 

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I like the fact that we have 5 starters instead of what we had in 2019 which was 2 good starters in Minor and Lynn and 3 holes. your whole plan seems to centered on "what can we get" not on having a decent team on the field. I know your whole mentality is "wait until 2021 or 2002 etc" some of us want to see the team do some competing now and 2020 and 2021 and so-on and not wait until your window opens to start it. we want the same thing in the end we just don't like your path

Some fans actually realize how hard it is to win a Championship so they're happy just watching a decent team on the field...
 

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I like the fact that we have 5 starters instead of what we had in 2019 which was 2 good starters in Minor and Lynn and 3 holes. your whole plan seems to centered on "what can we get" not on having a decent team on the field. I know your whole mentality is "wait until 2021 or 2002 etc" some of us want to see the team do some competing now and 2020 and 2021 and so-on and not wait until your window opens to start it. we want the same thing in the end we just don't like your path
I think we all need to look at putting our best foot forward for 2020 and not down the road because based on what I am seeing that is what ownership is doing. A left side of Arenado and Andrus is not too shabby and 5 guys that we hope can go out every 5th day and compete. There is still work to do so we shall see what they end up with.
 

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consider the return they would want, I'm not sure I'd even listen to what they want. Not blocking our young 3B guys for the next 6-7 years is why I am ok with missing on Rendon. My issue with the Rendon thing is that JD showed he's an idiot and can't read a market.
He does seem to struggle at understanding how to sign a top free agent.
 

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Some fans actually realize how hard it is to win a Championship so they're happy just watching a decent team on the field...
That is a very fair and honest evaluation and it points out the root cause of many differences that we have on this board.

Between that difference and the difference with how much we trust upper management, that probably covers 98% of our disagreements.
 

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Some fans actually realize how hard it is to win a Championship so they're happy just watching a decent team on the field...
that would be me. I love my Rangers and I want to see them be competitive or at least decent on the field
 

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I think we all need to look at putting our best foot forward for 2020 and not down the road because based on what I am seeing that is what ownership is doing. A left side of Arenado and Andrus is not too shabby and 5 guys that we hope can go out every 5th day and compete. There is still work to do so we shall see what they end up with.
That is fine if you and others want to do that.

For myself, I want a championship in a very bad way. I don't care what our record is while we build that team.

I know upper management disagrees and that is why I want to see them gone. I am not getting any younger and I am not guaranteed anything so who knows when my time will be up. I have seen enough decent to good baseball in my lifetime. I have seen way too little great baseball and no championship baseball.
 

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Seems as if people forget that only one team will win it all.
Then let's do everything possible to be that one team at some point. That includes signing a top notch free agent or three over the course of two or three years. It includes drafting and developing players extremely well. It includes shrewdly trading players with value who will not be here when our window is open.

Yes, only one team will win each year, so go out and do all of those things extremely well.
 

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Then let's do everything possible to be that one team at some point. That includes signing a top notch free agent or three over the course of two or three years. It includes drafting and developing players extremely well. It includes shrewdly trading players with value who will not be here when our window is open.

Yes, only one team will win each year, so go out and do all of those things extremely well.
while putting a team that the fans want to go see and not a AAAA team
 

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agree. some seem to feel that if your team isn't going to win it all why bother competing
Compete for the ultimate prize and not a consolation prize. That is true competing.
 

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while putting a team that the fans want to go see and not a AAAA team
No one wants a AAAA team. No one. Anyone with half a brain knows that.
 

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Compete for the ultimate prize and not a consolation prize. That is true competing.
no competing is putting a team on the field that has some chance of winning and not just occupying positions while you wait for that magical time. why bother playing if your intent is not to try
 

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no competing is putting a team on the field that has some chance of winning and not just occupying positions while you wait for that magical time. why bother playing if your intent is not to try
Winning what?
 

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No one wants a AAAA team. No one. Anyone with half a brain knows that.
well you seem to. trade Minor, trade Lynn, hell trade any one who has value seems to be your mantra and who do you put out there in their place? why not trade Elvis and Gallo too?
 
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