Taggart to FSU

[TheDayMan]

Can you flip from Beaver to Duck overnight? That seems to be grounds for a mass shooting during the rainy season especially. Can you get guns in Oregon?

All good questions. Gonna let @OregonDucks field them.

 

[outofyourmind]

So to summarize.

Taggart can recruit, but great coaching isn't established.
Mullens can coach, but can't land the big ones.

But Florida is loaded with Talent so it doesn't matter.



Did I leave anything out.

 

[DHoey]

Taggart Overall as HC 47-50
WKU- 2-10 2010
7-5. 11
7-5. 12
USF
2-10. 2013
4-8. 2014
8-5. 2015
10-2. 2016
Oregon
7-5. 2017
Mullen oc @ Fl 2004-2008 2 NC
over all as hc 69-46

MSST
5-7 2009
9-4 2010
7-6 2011
8-5 2012
7-6 2013
10-3 2014
9-4 2015
6-7 2016
8-4 2017

there is a difference a big one

Dan Mullen has a losing record against the SEC....

 

[TheDayMan]

So to summarize.

Taggart can recruit, but great coaching isn't established.
Mullens can coach, but can't land the big ones.

But Florida is loaded with Talent so it doesn't matter.



Did I leave anything out.

Yes, you forgot lol @ oregon.

 

[ktg8trgrl]

Not as amusing as five in a row in football and four in a row in basketball mind you, but whatever.

and yet still not as many as 9 in a row.. this wont last forever with FSU..

 

[4down20]

Dan Mullen has a losing record against the SEC....

Miss St is the equivalent of Oregon St.

You need to adjust accordingly.

 

[WizardHawk]

Miss St is the equivalent of Oregon St.

You need to adjust accordingly.

So both coaches being compared are not experienced at the level we are taking about. So you can't know which one will find more success at that level.

As a fan right now I'd lean toward the guy that recruits like crazy, but I'd be concerned with either.

 

[SJ76]

So to summarize.

Taggart can recruit, but great coaching isn't established.
Mullens can coach, but can't land the big ones.

But Florida is loaded with Talent so it doesn't matter.



Did I leave anything out.

What did Lincoln Riley do before Stoops stepped down? How old is he? 34?

 

[DHoey]

Miss St is the equivalent of Oregon St.

You need to adjust accordingly.

Meh.....He's 30-34 vs the SEC and he's 22-34 against every SEC team not named Kentucky.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Meh.....He's 30-34 vs the SEC and he's 22-34 against every SEC team not named Kentucky.

WHat part of "Mississippi State" is confusing to you?

 

[4down20]

Meh.....He's 30-34 vs the SEC and he's 22-34 against every SEC team not named Kentucky.

Mississippi State....

Actually, the fact that people don't understand "Mississippi St" is a testament to how well he's done there.

 

[Olyduck]

So in 8 seasons Taggart has one 10 win season and is 47-50 in his career.

and you don't think had he stayed where he built he wouldn't have had more?

 

[DHoey]

Mississippi State....

Actually, the fact that people don't understand "Mississippi St" is a testament to how well he's done there.

You compared them to Oregon st....Mike Riley had a nice run there, how'd he do after?

 

[4down20]

So both coaches being compared are not experienced at the level we are taking about. So you can't know which one will find more success at that level.

As a fan right now I'd lean toward the guy that recruits like crazy, but I'd be concerned with either.

He's been a HC in the SEC for 9 years and has taken one of the worse teams in college football and turned them into a top25 team. They even made it to #1 for a short while, the first time in their entire history.

As I said before, the fact people don't understand the accomplishment is in itself a testament to how well he's done. He's basically been running with weights on his legs.

Also, he was the OC for both Florida NC's in 2006 and 2008. Meyer/Florida fell apart without him almost immediately.

I'd take Mullen over all the other hires I've seen this year.

 

[socaljim242]

and you don't think had he stayed where he built he wouldn't have had more?

The old Harbaugh argument.

 

[Olyduck]

The old Harbaugh argument.

well both WKU and SFU went on to have pretty good years with his players after he left

 

[4down20]

You compared them to Oregon st....Mike Riley had a nice run there, how'd he do after?

But he's a Pac12 coach..

 

[NolePride]

It was the Jeff Bowden era. EVERYBODY had a good record against us then!

And during that period of time FSU compiled the 16th best record for the decade 2000-2009 of all the
Power 5 teams in the country.

It was a low point for FSU seeing as we were coming off being the 8th best in the 80's and the Best
in the 90's. But our floor was most everybody else's ceiling.

 

[WizardHawk]

He's been a HC in the SEC for 9 years and has taken one of the worse teams in college football and turned them into a top25 team. They even made it to #1 for a short while, the first time in their entire history.

As I said before, the fact people don't understand the accomplishment is in itself a testament to how well he's done. He's basically been running with weights on his legs.

Also, he was the OC for both Florida NC's in 2006 and 2008. Meyer/Florida fell apart without him almost immediately.

I'd take Mullen over all the other hires I've seen this year.

Fair enough, but we do not share that opinion.

I mean I love what Chris Petersen has brought to UW and they are far better off with him than any other head coach they have had since their glory years, but I also wish he'd bring in more of that high level 4* and some of those big named national 5* guys and not just stick to coaching up the 3's and 4's he's been used to for so long.

The coaches that dominate do both. Period.

I haven't seen anything that says Mullen can recruit at that level, but we sure have seen that from Taggart. That leaves his potential ceiling higher IMO. Just how I see it.

 

[NolePride]

one game doesn't determine a whole season in basketball it wasn't our night tomight.. but we will see where FSU is by the end of the big dance..

We will be exactly where we are right now! In the midst of a 4-game winning streak over the
Gates.