Thruthefog
Can'tre Member
TO is about 3 years too late.
and both times, his DEFENSES stopped brady etc with the ball at the end of the game.Eli is near the end, but regardless, the man is a legend in his own right.. 2 TD drives to win Super-Bowls, he came through when it counted the most... Both of those Giants playoff runs he played well throughout the entire playoffs...
and both times, his DEFENSES stopped brady etc with the ball at the end of the game.
its a weird narrative because both times, his defenses carried him/them to titles. eli got hot in a playoff run, but his defenses absolutely won those super bowl games.
You'll get some people that disagree he's a HOFer. I think he is. Even if most of his career he was the definition of average. But no QB w/ 50,000+ yards, 300+ TD's, 100+ W's, 2 S.B. rings & 2 S.B. mvp's has been left outta the HOF.
It will take him a little bit of time (unlike his brother) to get in though.
in todays modern pass happy, no QB touching NFL...Eli JUST passed 60% completion for his career for the first time. ever.For sure. Peyton is a no doubter 1st round ballet HOF'er...
But all you have to do is put Eli's numbers up against other HOF QB that's NOT in the top 5 of all time... LOL Just regular HOF QB's and he is in.. It will take time like you say..
and both times, his DEFENSES stopped brady etc with the ball at the end of the game.
its a weird narrative because both times, his defenses carried him/them to titles. eli got hot in a playoff run, but his defenses absolutely won those super bowl games.
no, i didnt forget. i SAID the defenses stopped brady etc at the end of those games. i said it in english. they did. do you remember the panic heaves to moss down field, when he COULD have chipped away in chunks, at the end of that game. he missed randy wide open on one.And you forget to mention that Plex caught the go ahead TD pass with 35 seconds left in the game.
For sure. Peyton is a no doubter 1st round ballet HOF'er...
But all you have to do is put Eli's numbers up against other HOF QB that's NOT in the top 5 of all time... LOL Just regular HOF QB's and he is in.. It will take time like you say..
no, i didnt forget. i SAID the defenses stopped brady etc at the end of those games. i said it in english. they did. do you remember the panic heaves to moss down field, when he COULD have chipped away in chunks, at the end of that game. he missed randy wide open on one.
id like to hear where what i said is incorrect.
Look at Eli's career numbers and look at Kurt Warner career numbers...
Not even close bro... He's in like flynn...
Kurt was at a disadvantage in that the back half of his prime was ruined by the epic beating that Martz put him through with that system that never protected the QB.
The dude took years to get back from that. He never complained about it though.
AND he still made it... 22,000 yards less than Eli!! A lot of quarterbacks don't even throw for 22,000 yards in their career... And Warner is 22,000 yards behind Eli... And growing!!
That's not Eli's fault.. You can't even bend the numbers to show how Eli don't make it..
Look at Troy Aikman numbers!!!... There's a whole shit list of inferior numbers...
I already said he should be in. Despite me not liking him. You can't keep him out with those numbers and rings. I was more giving a reason for why Warner's numbers aren't as impressive as they could have been.
Aikman, don't get me started on.
Only one person. TO
Dude has to hold the record for dropped INTs... but I guess its better to be lucky than good.
They only scored the league average against the the Patriots d, but gave up about half as many points as the league average to the Patriots o. In other words, the offense wasn't what won them the game.That playoff game where they beat the undefeated Pats, OMG yes there was some luck in that game, I'll say that for sure... But lighting struck twice, and the second time it wasn't so much luck, he did what he had to ...
and both times, his DEFENSES stopped brady etc with the ball at the end of the game.
its a weird narrative because both times, his defenses carried him/them to titles. eli got hot in a playoff run, but his defenses absolutely won those super bowl games.
They only scored the league average against the the Patriots d, but gave up about half as many points as the league average to the Patriots o. In other words, the offense wasn't what won them the game.