POLL Should the Eagles Fire Nick Sirianni?

[Battlelyon]

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

The players like him and want him to stay but Lurie rarely goes by that in these decisions. Having said that, if they haven't fired him yet, I doubt they do. The fans and media in Philly are pretty loud about it but maybe Lurie gives him a chance to bounce back with better people around him. If they do keep Nick, he will be on the hot seat next season right from the get go, I think. And they have a lot of personnel decisions to address. That roster needs some upgrades in a few spots.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

The Eagles fell apart at the end of the 2023-2024 NFL season. There's no doubt about that, but is that really his fault? Look at these stats:

- 34-17 as a head coach
- Eagles finished second place in the NFC East in 2021 and 2023. First place in 2022.
- Went to a Super Bowl.
- All three seasons he's helped take the Eagles to the playoffs.

Why in the world would you fire him?

 

[wilwhite]

The Eagles fell apart at the end of the 2023-2024 NFL season. There's no doubt about that, but is that really his fault? Look at these stats:

- 34-17 as a head coach
- Eagles finished second place in the NFC East in 2021 and 2023. First place in 2022.
- Went to a Super Bowl.
- All three seasons he's helped take the Eagles to the playoffs.

Why in the world would you fire him?

Who else's fault would it be? You can't blame the players as a group, cuz that's coaching, too.

But if he knows what went wrong and has a plan to fix it, he's earned that chance.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

Who else's fault would it be? You can't blame the players as a group, cuz that's coaching, too.

But if he knows what went wrong and has a plan to fix it, he's earned that chance.

I am no Eagles fan, or follow the organization that closely. But I do not see why you would fire your head coach. We have seen in the past the concept of the Super Bowl hangover. The Chiefs are one of the few teams which can consistently win playoff games year after year, and avoid any hangovers.

 

[wilwhite]

I am no Eagles fan, or follow the organization that closely. But I do not see why you would fire your head coach. We have seen in the past the concept of the Super Bowl hangover. The Chiefs are one of the few teams which can consistently win playoff games year after year, and avoid any hangovers.

Hangover usually doesn't kick in at 4 pm the next day, tho.

 

[Stlducks]

They will keep him but he's under pressure next season. If they start slow, he will be gone by mid-season.

 

[eaglesnut]

The Eagles fell apart at the end of the 2023-2024 NFL season. There's no doubt about that, but is that really his fault? Look at these stats:

- 34-17 as a head coach
- Eagles finished second place in the NFC East in 2021 and 2023. First place in 2022.
- Went to a Super Bowl.
- All three seasons he's helped take the Eagles to the playoffs.

Why in the world would you fire him?

Because he thought Brian Johnson could call plays.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Because he thought Brian Johnson could call plays.

That's a big part of it for sure nut but the LBs and back end of the defense were absolutely awful as well. Howie needs to address that quickly. Only Washington's defense worse down the stretch than Philly's. You can't win in this league with one side of the ball that bad. And obviously it gets compounded when you lose Steichen and the offense becomes predictable and average.

 

[Iggloo]

Looks like he is staying, which means that Philly is probably doomed next season. He'll be on a short leash and they'll likely fire him midway or after the season and then have to start over

 

[fightinfunbags]

Looks like he is staying, which means that Philly is probably doomed next season. He'll be on a short leash and they'll likely fire him midway or after the season and then have to start over

When they decided to fuck with his DC and make that horrible decision to go from Desai to Patricia the front office can no longer hold him responsible for the collapse.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

When they decided to fuck with his DC and make that horrible decision to go from Desai to Patricia the front office can no longer hold him responsible for the collapse.

That's true but you know in Howie's mind he placed Patricia who he thought was better, still failed and still Nick's fault. They hate being told their wrong but Nick survives at least 1 more season.

 

[PDay8810]

back in the day, quitting as a team was the very worst, even worse than chocking.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That's true but you know in Howie's mind he placed Patricia who he thought was better, still failed and still Nick's fault. They hate being told their wrong but Nick survives at least 1 more season.

I think the biggest Nick issue is the offense. If the design of the offense and design of the system is truly on Nick that needs to be addressed. Brian Johnson may have taken a huge bullet for Nick this season. Most believe that Johnson is the issue. Yet…he’s now up to 3 or 4 interviews for head coaching positions. That tells me that the league knows that the offensive issues with the Eagles aren’t Brian Johnson. Going forward:
1. Nick stays but he’s on notice. He’s a vibes and culture guy and a pretty solid game manager. I’m good with that because you need a CEO type in this role.
2. Nick needs to be removed from the offensive day to day as much as possible. Let Brian Johnson run HIS offense and HIS system and tailor it better to Jalen’s strengths, a player BJ has known since Hurts was 7 or 8 years old.
3. Start over on defense. Bring in an aggressive DC (maybe not Wink Martendale but some one like that) who will dictate to the offense instead of playing bend don’t break that has become so common place in the league.

The goal is for them to get back to playing complimentary football. They need a balanced attack that can run and pass at a high level and possess the football. They need to get out in front offensively to help make the opposing offensive one dimensional. They also need a ton of personnel changes on defense. They need a talent infusion on all three levels of the defense.

They have three picks inside the top 60 this year in the draft. They’ve had the luxury of being able to draft depth guys who could sit for a year the last few years. This year they need three immediate contributors on defense out of those picks.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I think the biggest Nick issue is the offense. If the design of the offense and design of the system is truly on Nick that needs to be addressed. Brian Johnson may have taken a huge bullet for Nick this season. Most believe that Johnson is the issue. Yet…he’s now up to 3 or 4 interviews for head coaching positions. That tells me that the league knows that the offensive issues with the Eagles aren’t Brian Johnson. Going forward:
1. Nick stays but he’s on notice. He’s a vibes and culture guy and a pretty solid game manager. I’m good with that because you need a CEO type in this role.
2. Nick needs to be removed from the offensive day to day as much as possible. Let Brian Johnson run HIS offense and HIS system and tailor it better to Jalen’s strengths, a player BJ has known since Hurts was 7 or 8 years old.
3. Start over on defense. Bring in an aggressive DC (maybe not Wink Martendale but some one like that) who will dictate to the offense instead of playing bend don’t break that has become so common place in the league.

The goal is for them to get back to playing complimentary football. They need a balanced attack that can run and pass at a high level and possess the football. They need to get out in front offensively to help make the opposing offensive one dimensional. They also need a ton of personnel changes on defense. They need a talent infusion on all three levels of the defense.

They have three picks inside the top 60 this year in the draft. They’ve had the luxury of being able to draft depth guys who could sit for a year the last few years. This year they need three immediate contributors on defense out of those picks.

Is Nick the play caller?
Or does he just play Head coach?

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I think the biggest Nick issue is the offense. If the design of the offense and design of the system is truly on Nick that needs to be addressed. Brian Johnson may have taken a huge bullet for Nick this season. Most believe that Johnson is the issue. Yet…he’s now up to 3 or 4 interviews for head coaching positions. That tells me that the league knows that the offensive issues with the Eagles aren’t Brian Johnson. Going forward:
1. Nick stays but he’s on notice. He’s a vibes and culture guy and a pretty solid game manager. I’m good with that because you need a CEO type in this role.
2. Nick needs to be removed from the offensive day to day as much as possible. Let Brian Johnson run HIS offense and HIS system and tailor it better to Jalen’s strengths, a player BJ has known since Hurts was 7 or 8 years old.
3. Start over on defense. Bring in an aggressive DC (maybe not Wink Martendale but some one like that) who will dictate to the offense instead of playing bend don’t break that has become so common place in the league.

The goal is for them to get back to playing complimentary football. They need a balanced attack that can run and pass at a high level and possess the football. They need to get out in front offensively to help make the opposing offensive one dimensional. They also need a ton of personnel changes on defense. They need a talent infusion on all three levels of the defense.

They have three picks inside the top 60 this year in the draft. They’ve had the luxury of being able to draft depth guys who could sit for a year the last few years. This year they need three immediate contributors on defense out of those picks.

All good points. My problem is will Nick allow Brian Johnson to run his scheme without any interference. Meaning will he keep his hands off the offense even if hits a bump during a game and allow Johnson to make his own changes? Nick on the hot seat might get trigger happy and take back control.

Yes, the defense needs new blood. D-line and secondary needs lots of help. I want to say LBs are desperately needed but Howie refuses to put any thought into that position unless he gets lucky middle to back end of the draft or cheap FA. How does Ron Rivera seem to you as the next DC?

Totally agree they need to get back to balanced attack of football. Traded for a RB that can also pass catch out of the back field and grossly misused this season needs to be part of the center piece of next years offense. Can't be just the AJ Brown show.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I think the biggest Nick issue is the offense. If the design of the offense and design of the system is truly on Nick that needs to be addressed. Brian Johnson may have taken a huge bullet for Nick this season. Most believe that Johnson is the issue. Yet…he’s now up to 3 or 4 interviews for head coaching positions. That tells me that the league knows that the offensive issues with the Eagles aren’t Brian Johnson. Going forward:
1. Nick stays but he’s on notice. He’s a vibes and culture guy and a pretty solid game manager. I’m good with that because you need a CEO type in this role.
2. Nick needs to be removed from the offensive day to day as much as possible. Let Brian Johnson run HIS offense and HIS system and tailor it better to Jalen’s strengths, a player BJ has known since Hurts was 7 or 8 years old.
3. Start over on defense. Bring in an aggressive DC (maybe not Wink Martendale but some one like that) who will dictate to the offense instead of playing bend don’t break that has become so common place in the league.

The goal is for them to get back to playing complimentary football. They need a balanced attack that can run and pass at a high level and possess the football. They need to get out in front offensively to help make the opposing offensive one dimensional. They also need a ton of personnel changes on defense. They need a talent infusion on all three levels of the defense.

They have three picks inside the top 60 this year in the draft. They’ve had the luxury of being able to draft depth guys who could sit for a year the last few years. This year they need three immediate contributors on defense out of those picks.

Welp.

It looks like Brian Johnson is going to get scapegoated. I don’t know if we will ever get the full story.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Is Nick the play caller?

Not anymore. When he first took over the Eagles started 2-5 and he gave up play calling to Shane Steichen. Steichen had the Eagles on an incredible 1.5 year run of 23-8 including playoff games. Brian Johnson was running Nick’s offensive scheme and play design this year and clearly it didn’t work out at all. Looking at the all 22s of what they were doing this year, I don’t know fully who is responsible but it’s clear that it was straight malpractice what they got from offensive coaches this year. NFL offenses should feast vs cover zero blitzes and it’s been the Eagles undoing.

Or does he just play Head coach?

He is definitely a vibes and culture guy. I think he’s rather ordinary or even subpar as an “offensive mind”.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Not anymore. When he first took over the Eagles started 2-5 and he gave up play calling to Shane Steichen. Steichen had the Eagles on an incredible 1.5 year run of 23-8 including playoff games. Brian Johnson was running Nick’s offensive scheme and play design this year and clearly it didn’t work out at all. Looking at the all 22s of what they were doing this year, I don’t know fully who is responsible but it’s clear that it was straight malpractice what they got from offensive coaches this year. NFL offenses should feast vs cover zero blitzes and it’s been the Eagles undoing.

He is definitely a vibes and culture guy. I think he’s rather ordinary or even subpar as an “offensive mind”.

well if he still has the locker room.
Get an OC that works. Hopefully he can trust his coordinators & let them do what they do.
I think the best HCs manage their people. Not do their peoples jobs for them.
If he can do that. I think he bounces back (if you guys hire the right coordinators)


That is what made Joe Gibbs so great. He was a people person. Knew where to put coaches & players. Then let them do what they do.
He did it in the NFL then went & did it in Nascar.
Put the right people in the right spots to succeed.

If his ego or whatever gets in the way & he starts interfering with the play calling. Then he might become a lame duck.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Welp.

It looks like Brian Johnson is going to get scapegoated. I don’t know if we will ever get the full story.

This isn't surprising as the int in the Seattle game came from AJ and Hurts calling their play different from what was called in. Of course end result is game over and If Hurts even bothered to take a peek he would have seen Gainwell 10yds down field open with another 10+ of field in front of him for a FG goal attempt. This falls on Nick for not getting his house in order.