Series Thread: Royals @ M's: 8/26-8/29 Butt Whoopin Thread

[ulmax]

agreed..let me see if i can..work..a rotation...


Kevin Gausman..........................29.mil..to 35 mil..i feel good about getting him..at those numbers............
Marco Gonzales...L/L.................$5,250,000

2026

34

UFA

Chris Flexen 77..............$3,050,000

2025

31

UFA

Yusei Kikuchi.......L/L

$16,500,000

20.13

14,000,000

2026

35

UFA

Logan Gilbert......

$438,581

he has a long way to go till..arb..is up and done

ok ...so we have room

Tyler Anderson...................L/L

$2,500,000

now

SEASONS	TEAM		SALARY	SIGNING BONUS	INCENTIVE	TOTAL CASH
4 seasons			$4,229,500	$1,400,000	-	$5,629,500
1 seasons			$657,407	-	-	$972,407
1 seasons			$900,547	-	-	$900,547
seasons			$1,599,453	-	-	$1,599,45

so just a guess...they give 4 or 5..and winn bonus==numbers bonus,..yada yada...???not really sure...lol

this rotation runs....to
dunn...........1st guy up.or.long bull pen....ya never know after a few trades..he could fit right in the pen
sheffield......1st guy up...........bull pen spot start.........

paxton..........L/l...maybe around july.....start..AZL...i think...??and im not sure..we will have to get ..the word
Nick Margevicius 52 IL-60..same as pax..

that is rotation................this is a playoff rotation....with..extra's

 

[ulmax]

line up..infield
Ty France 23...1B..........i say.(.not the mariners..we will see what they say later..but makes sense to me)......white..to tacoma...needs re-hab anyway
Abraham Toro 13...2B...looking good ........so far
J.P. Crawford 3.......ss..L/L..........nice year for j.p...so far
Kyle Seager 15......3B...L/L...they.pick up his contract..then..extend..the next year...lol..no reason for kyle to go anywhere...seattle needs him......
Cal Raleigh 29..........catch/dh........going through..spiring..will hopefully ..put him right here...
Luis Torrens 22.........Dh/catch...nice fit there..lol
free agent..or trade..for 1 more catcher...or....José Godoy 78 MINORS..mariners have good catchers on the way...
back up.
.ss/2b..is needed..here

1B torrens..or baur..if ya think ..buar,,going...not yet,,think again..until ..white gets back...at least..for now anyway..lol
3B toro

outfield
Haniger..Rf..hurry...re-sign him....lol..thing is..they can afford haniger...and just why go get..someone..else...( emoje head scratcher)
CF
Kyle Lewis 1
Jake Fraley 28...L/L
Jarred Kelenic 10........L/L
Taylor Trammell 20...L/L

pick one...lol

 

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RANK	TEAM	WIN%	ROSTER	26-MAN PAYROLL	INJURED RESERVE	RETAINED	BURIED	SUSPENDED	2021 TOTAL PAYROLL
1	Los Angeles Dodgers	0.631	26	$173,526,431	$44,025,490	$2,049,310	$23,529,500	-	$267,074,328
2	New York Yankees	0.589	26	$136,659,937	$55,367,554	$9,580,357	$8,002,375	-	$203,249,290
3	New York Mets	0.481	26	$135,966,817	$52,720,299	$8,100,410	$8,744,500	-	$198,063,083
4	Houston Astros	0.597	26	$144,643,353	$41,366,231	$4,134,205	$5,801,400	-	$191,848,750
5	Philadelphia Phillies	0.504	26	$153,719,060	$18,051,064	$6,521,660	$10,538,000	-	$183,738,375
6	Boston Red Sox	0.573	26	$131,398,055	$8,942,164	$37,801,312	$4,530,500	-	$182,199,221
7	Los Angeles Angels	0.489	26	$59,448,444	$82,493,138	$36,436,680	$9,845,000	-	$181,305,579
8	San Diego Padres	0.527	26	$149,566,309	$24,568,749	$562,136	$6,355,600	-	$175,823,657
9	St. Louis Cardinals	0.516	25	$119,726,331	$31,035,985	$16,696,123	$5,749,400	-	$168,853,213
10	San Francisco Giants	0.651	26	$106,919,509	$27,886,650	$4,870,467	$9,161,700	-	$160,142,587
11	Toronto Blue Jays	0.523	26	$81,947,876	$37,389,011	$25,046,554	$8,001,000	-	$151,267,588
12	Washington Nationals	0.430	26	$48,761,861	$36,837,330	$54,493,941	$5,762,300	-	$148,227,062
13	Atlanta Braves	0.539	26	$109,161,848	$25,086,442	$11,645,925	$14,177,000	-	$147,124,823
14	Chicago Cubs	0.435	26	$59,515,327	$12,064,143	$71,105,238	$5,564,000	-	$143,423,517
15	Chicago White Sox	0.573	26	$123,765,711	$5,200,000	$9,226,550	$7,486,500	-	$140,694,506
LEAGUE AVERAGE								$130,224,653

 

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LEAGUE AVERAGE								$130,224,653
16	Cincinnati Reds	0.542	26	$114,469,086	$5,083,085	$3,635,860	$6,331,500	-	$125,354,453
17	Minnesota Twins	0.442	26	$72,898,212	$24,287,055	$17,383,164	$7,914,000	-	$117,521,044
18	Colorado Rockies	0.457	26	$78,970,286	$8,668,500	$17,510,616	$5,139,500	-	$114,118,774
19	Milwaukee Brewers	0.600	26	$75,333,082	$7,718,008	$8,266,654	$11,653,766	-	$97,256,920
20	Texas Rangers	0.341	26	$18,261,860	$18,745,471	$58,764,829	$2,284,000	-	$96,017,784
21	Oakland Athletics	0.546	26	$58,428,202	$27,523,125	$1,268,513	$4,594,000	$580,500	$88,901,561
22	Arizona Diamondbacks	0.336	26	$48,353,453	$15,200,000	$22,803,884	$8,610,600	-	$88,533,639
23	Detroit Tigers	0.477	26	$65,557,203	$7,466,864	$8,352,752	$7,803,200	-	$85,359,789
24	Kansas City Royals	0.457	26	$54,730,810	$10,922,741	$16,711,027	$6,277,400	-	$84,881,768
25	Seattle Mariners	0.531	26	$56,896,004	$17,129,908	$5,887,533	$6,510,000	$570,500	$81,949,226
26	Tampa Bay Rays	0.628	26	$47,586,727	$15,266,038	$6,214,958	$5,729,600	-	$70,141,559
27	Miami Marlins	0.415	26	$26,431,919	$6,560,064	$23,209,704	$8,557,500	-	$57,903,910
28	Pittsburgh Pirates	0.362	26	$19,872,463	$3,776,725	$19,495,600	$9,661,300	-	$53,807,513
29	Baltimore Orioles	0.313	26	$18,653,858	$1,581,014	$30,142,794	$9,454,200	-	$53,094,130
30	Cleveland Indians	0.496	26	$27,352,136	$9,085,537	$10,173,544	$4,124,000	-	$48,861,946

 

[ulmax]

seattle could easy spend 100 mil...and catch up with the angels...180..that would be about right..on the other hand..it does not add ,..up..to that

guasman...call it .........................35 mil..just to be on the top end
Tyler Anderson 31.......................4-7....i guess
haniger..............................................20 mil.........basicly..if he stays..top 2 at his pos...ya gota pay him...get it done soon so it is not a prob later......

???treavor story..???.....what..18-20 mil...???
............................................................so that is 75..mil...so..155mil..at that point.....
go get some bull pen guys maybe...if ya need them...graveman.........???

 

[ulmax]

a few trades..i like this one......
Dylan Moore 25
Sam Haggerty 0 IL-60
Yohan Ramirez 55
for
Edmundo Sosa 63....st louis cardinals
lets test it
This appears to be a fair trade proposal for each team. Now post it to our Trade Board to see what other users think of it.

anytime you have treavor story..you need one more guy...he gets injured..but..he usually come back..in..not 2 long
then they still have..Shed Long Jr. 4 IL-60 as well..and Donovan Walton 8 MINORS,,so..that would be nice

 

[NWinAZ]

 

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orrrr if story..gets away...

Trevor Story
#27 SS
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• Trevor John Story
• Nickname: True
• Born: 11/15/1992 in Irving, TX
• Draft: 2011, Colorado Rockies, Round: C-A, Overall Pick: 45
• High School: Irving, Irving, TX
• Debut: 4/04/2016

try and get.....sosa...lol

 

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Season	Team	LG	G	AB	R	H	TB	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GO/AO
2018	STL	NL	3	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	.000	.333	.000	.333	0.00
2019	STL	NL	8	8	2	2	2	0	0	0	0	1	0	2	1	0	.250	.400	.250	.650	3.00
2021	STL	NL	90	212	30	59	85	6	4	4	18	12	2	41	3	4	.278	.360	.401	.761	1.22

Edmundo Sosa #63​

• SS
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 0"/210
• Age: 25

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• Edmundo Israel Sosa
• Born: 3/06/1996 in Panama City, Panama
• Debut: 9/23/2018
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Year	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OBP	OPS
2021 Stats	212	30	59	4	18	3	.278	.360	.761
MLB Career Stats	222	33	61	4	18	4	.275	.361	.753

Year 2021 Stats MLB Career Stats Status: Active

 

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Dylan Moore #25​

• 2B
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 0"/185
• Age: 29

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• Dylan Moore
• Nickname: D Mo
• Born: 8/02/1992 in Yorba Linda, CA
• Draft: 2015, Texas Rangers, Round: 7, Overall Pick: 198

moore

Season	Team	LG	G	AB	R	H	TB	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GO/A
2019	SEA	AL	113	247	31	51	96	14	2	9	28	25	0	93	11	9	.206	.302	.389	.691	0.73
2020	SEA	AL	38	137	26	35	68	9	0	8	17	14	0	43	12	5	.255	.358	.496	.855	0.79
2021	SEA	AL	99	281	31	49	91	10	1	10	37	34	0	100	18	3	.174	.272	.324	.596	0

moore could hit better in ..national..league..or maybe just a diff..hitting coach...ya never know on that one
haggerty

Season	Team	LG	G	AB	R	H	TB	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GO/AO
2019	NYM	NL	11	4	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	0.00
2020	SEA	AL	13	50	7	13	20	4	0	1	6	4	0	16	4	0	.260	.315	.400	.715	0.91
2021	SEA	AL	35	86	15	16	25	3	0	2	5	6	0	28	5	1	.186	.247	.291	.538	1.53

both these guys outfield and run well...st..louis can use that..haggerty..will hit better..prob..around 250 .at least...he was just starting to catch on again..when he goti injury

 

[wazzu31]

The Kelenic strike 2 call in the 12th was a killer though M's had already choked away many opportunities by then.


The part that bothers me is the ump had called 124 of 129 balls correctly until that BS strike 2 call.

It is what I argued a couple weeks back was going to bite Kelenic in the ass. When you are a rookie with zero credibility you can’t show up umpires because they talk and they are petty.

 

[wazzu31]

Hope seems to be the Mariners scouting method.

Not picking on you just asking a question: If Kelenic was say a #90 MLB prospect instead of a Top 5, would you still have the same hope that he is better than he has shown? I think fans, and baseball people, put more hope in a guy based on his ranking even though rankings are truly a guessing game and done by people outside of baseball itself.

Kelenic's Minor League #'s:

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Everyone should have the faith in him. His minor league numbers were outstanding for a HS kid from Wisconsin. I don’t think anyone put him in the Trout category but nothing even in his minor league days showed he would struggle. But he is the epitome of how much Covid sucked. He can’t get better in the minors but is struggling in the bigs. Way too early to say he is a AAAA player.

 

[NWinAZ]

Everyone should have the faith in him. His minor league numbers were outstanding for a HS kid from Wisconsin. I don’t think anyone put him in the Trout category but nothing even in his minor league days showed he would struggle. But he is the epitome of how much Covid sucked. He can’t get better in the minors but is struggling in the bigs. Way too early to say he is a AAAA player.

Not trying to argue with you or anyone on it, but it does peek my interest on why fans get locked in on a guy and his potential to be a stud when he really hasn't done anything to show that. To your point about his minor league success, I see good stats not elite stats. Yes he was younger than most at his levels, but as we see in draft picks some peek at a high school or college levels. Again, not trying to be a downer on him but trying to see what others swear by. I see a kid full of himself at times and a kid who may burn himself out with his pressure he puts on himself with every AB. Talent wise, I don't see that 'It' factors that jumps out. Surprisingly to me anyways is that I feel he has been better defensively than previously thought (my eyes).

This topic for me isn't to bash but just to see what others see. Griffey was easy to see. Trout as well. Ackley looked the part in his rookie year. Just trying to define what differs from the next Seager vs the next Ackley once they reach the majors. Physical tools? Mental tools? Work ethic? It is a curiosity to me that is all.

 

[NWinAZ]