Report: Patriots used deflated balls

[R.J. MacReady]

The only one with deflated balls was Mike McCarthy...

At least your admitting GB gave you the game.

 

[Ojb81]

Bill Belichick will have the team ball boys escorted off the premises by Foxboro police in cuffs by COB today. Ayyyyep, ol' Billy Boy gonna get it allllllll squah'ed away!

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

So did Russell Wilson, at least Michael didn't have half the Seahawks fucking his wife

I see the resident piece of shit is in rare form today.

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

off topic but can you make it so that when i click on a thread it goes to the first unread? Badly needed feature

Would be nice, but from a software perspective it's a pain in the ass to implement.

 

[PatsFan2003]

You know it's legal for teams to have different types of shoes for the weather...

 

[Anointed One]

At least your admitting GB gave you the game.

Lies...

 

[R.J. MacReady]

Lies...

Sorry, I needed my fix.

Tormenting Seattle fans is very addictive.

 

[BusSport]

Buccaneers QB Brad Johnson Paid $7500 to Doctor 100 Balls Before Super Bowl 37 Against Raiders

"Brad Johnson Paid Some Guys To Doctor 100 Footballs Before Super Bowl":

At the Super Bowl, the NFL had 100 footballs. They were new, slick and supposedly under the league's watchful eye. But not leaving anything to chance, Johnson made sure the balls were scuffed and ready well before the Dixie Chicks sang the national anthem.

"I paid some guys off to get the balls right," Johnson now admits. "I went and got all 100 footballs, and they took care of all of them."

How much did it cost Johnson? "Seventy-five hundred (dollars)," he said.

"They took care of them."

"Bucs QB Johnson paid to have footballs scuffed before SB 37":

Johnson said he paid two ballboys working for the NFL a total of $7,500 to make sure the footballs were scuffed and broken in before the Super Bowl and they obliged. Johnson first revealed the secret payment to the Tampa Bay Times in 2012, just prior to the 10-year reunion of the Bucs' Super Bowl championship team.

When Brad Johnson publicly admits to paying to doctor balls, or Aaron Rodgers confesses to overinflating footballs, or the Carolina Panthers are caught on camera heating balls, people don't care and say it's no big deal.

But when the Patriots allegedly deflate balls, people say they "deserve the death penalty".

Hypocrisy.

 

[broncosmitty]

Rich Gannon was in on it as well.

Neither wanted shiny new balls. It's not much of a comparison. But nice try.

 

[gowazzu02]

Totally differnent situation

Deflategate: As NFL probes, pressure mounting on Belichick, Patriots | The MMQB with Peter King




There’s a difference that all these ex-quarterbacks are not taking into account when they say, “Every team doctors the footballs.” Former quarterback Matt Leinart tweeted something Wednesday that many quarterbacks were saying in different ways: “Every team tampers with the football. Ask any QB in the league, this is ridiculous!!” Every quarterback can tamper with the 12 footballs assigned to his team in the days before the game. In the NFL, each team is allowed weekly to break in 12 new footballs as it sees fit, according to the quarterback’s preference. That includes taking the shine and slipperiness off the new balls, and compressing them and working them in to soften the leather. By rule, those 12 footballs are then delivered to the officiating crew on site 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game begins.
At that point the head linesman inspects each football with one or more members of his crew. If need be, the officials will clean off the balls. Then they will insert a needle into the balls, one by one, to ensure the balls are inflated to the proper pressure: between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. If a ball is underinflated, an electric pump is used to fill it to the requisite level. Then all 12 balls are marked by silver Sharpie with a referee’s personal preference of a mark—Gene Steratore’s crew uses the letter “L,” for Steratore’s fiancée, Lisa—and put back into the bag, and zipped. The bags are handed to the ballboys minutes before the opening kickoff. If it’s raining, or bad weather is on the way, the officials might tell the ballboys to change the ball on every play, whether it hits the ground on the previous play or not.
To sum up: Yes, the quarterback or his equipment staff can break in the balls in whatever way they want a couple of days before the game. But no, the quarterback cannot dictate the level of air pressure in the ball. Or at least he cannot do it legally. And the low air pressure in the Patriots’ footballs is why this is a story.

 

[BusSport]

"NFL head coaches at Senior Bowl seem downright offended that deflation is a big deal"

Kevin Clark of The Wall Street Journal:

[ame]http://www.twitter.com/KevinClarkWSJ/status/557961198856306688[/ame]

NFL head coaches here at Senior Bowl seem downright offended that people think this deflation stuff is a big deal.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Kevin Clark of The Wall Street Journal:

Kevin Clark on Twitter: "NFL head coaches here at Senior Bowl seem downright offended that people think this deflation stuff is a big deal."

They can be offended all they want to be, the NFL thinks it's a big deal and that is all that matters right now when fans follow this story.

 

[LambeauLegs]

Totally differnent situation

Deflategate: As NFL probes, pressure mounting on Belichick, Patriots | The MMQB with Peter King




There’s a difference that all these ex-quarterbacks are not taking into account when they say, “Every team doctors the footballs.” Former quarterback Matt Leinart tweeted something Wednesday that many quarterbacks were saying in different ways: “Every team tampers with the football. Ask any QB in the league, this is ridiculous!!” Every quarterback can tamper with the 12 footballs assigned to his team in the days before the game. In the NFL, each team is allowed weekly to break in 12 new footballs as it sees fit, according to the quarterback’s preference. That includes taking the shine and slipperiness off the new balls, and compressing them and working them in to soften the leather. By rule, those 12 footballs are then delivered to the officiating crew on site 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game begins.
At that point the head linesman inspects each football with one or more members of his crew. If need be, the officials will clean off the balls. Then they will insert a needle into the balls, one by one, to ensure the balls are inflated to the proper pressure: between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. If a ball is underinflated, an electric pump is used to fill it to the requisite level. Then all 12 balls are marked by silver Sharpie with a referee’s personal preference of a mark—Gene Steratore’s crew uses the letter “L,” for Steratore’s fiancée, Lisa—and put back into the bag, and zipped. The bags are handed to the ballboys minutes before the opening kickoff. If it’s raining, or bad weather is on the way, the officials might tell the ballboys to change the ball on every play, whether it hits the ground on the previous play or not.
To sum up: Yes, the quarterback or his equipment staff can break in the balls in whatever way they want a couple of days before the game. But no, the quarterback cannot dictate the level of air pressure in the ball. Or at least he cannot do it legally. And the low air pressure in the Patriots’ footballs is why this is a story.

This has been discussed much of the day but Pats fans cant seem to see the difference where the Patriots decide to manipulate the balls after they get the mark by the ref that they passed his test by letting air out after they were approved

 

[jarrod49]

Totally differnent situation

Deflategate: As NFL probes, pressure mounting on Belichick, Patriots | The MMQB with Peter King




There’s a difference that all these ex-quarterbacks are not taking into account when they say, “Every team doctors the footballs.” Former quarterback Matt Leinart tweeted something Wednesday that many quarterbacks were saying in different ways: “Every team tampers with the football. Ask any QB in the league, this is ridiculous!!” Every quarterback can tamper with the 12 footballs assigned to his team in the days before the game. In the NFL, each team is allowed weekly to break in 12 new footballs as it sees fit, according to the quarterback’s preference. That includes taking the shine and slipperiness off the new balls, and compressing them and working them in to soften the leather. By rule, those 12 footballs are then delivered to the officiating crew on site 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game begins.
At that point the head linesman inspects each football with one or more members of his crew. If need be, the officials will clean off the balls. Then they will insert a needle into the balls, one by one, to ensure the balls are inflated to the proper pressure: between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. If a ball is underinflated, an electric pump is used to fill it to the requisite level. Then all 12 balls are marked by silver Sharpie with a referee’s personal preference of a mark—Gene Steratore’s crew uses the letter “L,” for Steratore’s fiancée, Lisa—and put back into the bag, and zipped. The bags are handed to the ballboys minutes before the opening kickoff. If it’s raining, or bad weather is on the way, the officials might tell the ballboys to change the ball on every play, whether it hits the ground on the previous play or not.
To sum up: Yes, the quarterback or his equipment staff can break in the balls in whatever way they want a couple of days before the game. But no, the quarterback cannot dictate the level of air pressure in the ball. Or at least he cannot do it legally. And the low air pressure in the Patriots’ footballs is why this is a story.

^^^^this
and the fact that they have been caught cheating already!!!!!!

 

[FlyerFinFan]

If a player tugs another players jersey, throws a punch, goes offside or whatever, it is happening out in the field of play where 7 officials can see it and judge it. When a team sneakily deflates balls after the officials have inspected them and deemed them fair for both sides it is clearly underhanded and far more egregious than some CB trying to get away with holding. I suspect you understand this but you are being a good soldier for your team and defending them at all costs.

Don't even waste your time with this tool he constantly plays this game. In his world he believes a kid pushing over a garbage can is the same offense as a serial murderer. Both illegal but completely ridiculous statement when compared. There are different penalties for different crimes for a reason...it's due to social tolerance and his boy should pay a huge penalty on this one as it's more than a simple tug of the jersey.

 

[PatsFan2003]

They can be offended all they want to be, the NFL thinks it's a big deal and that is all that matters right now when fans follow this story.

The fans think it's a big deal obviously.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

The Ravens lost the game on defensive confusion on some key plays and Flacco making some uncharacteristic mistakes. Even though it was wrong I don't think the deflated balls really were a factor.

Were there any big returns or bad kicks? I don't remember any.

The defensive confusion came on formations that took advantage of the refs incompetency. Just another slight of hand from your coach. Once the refs got their shit straight they didn't work any more but in the meantime the ravens got screwed in that game as it got the pats right back in it. Either way that was a factor and to say that you don't think that having a better grip on the football helped the pats then why are we all here discussing it???

Kicking balls are separate so has no bearing...

 

[Cyder]

The fans think it's a big deal obviously.

There's no games this week so.......

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I didn't know every team deflated/inflated multiple footballs during a playoff game, after the refs had already inspected them. If this is true then the NFL should start to take their rules a lot more seriously.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Imagine the SB has just been played and the Pats get blown out 45-7 to Seattle. Then it comes out that Paul Allen was able to get a hold of the Pats helmet frequencies so Seattle could hear all the calls going into Brady. Would that be the same as a CB tugging on a WR's jersey all game long? Would NEPatsFan be just as ok with it? I doubt it. People seem to care a bit less about this because they aren't sure if it actually would have benefitted the Pats that much. But it shouldn't matter. Even if helped a tiny bit it's still an advantage that Indy did get.

Great example but patsfan will tell you that he'd look at it as the same...the guy has to have a screw loose up there.