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one thing about holland this season, is his fastball velocity is down a couple mph's. there have been a couple starts recently where it was the same as last season, but it's not really there today and before someone says "he touched 94 a couple times" remember that KC's gun is notoriously a fast one. maybe there is legitimacy to the season after a long post season run the starters struggle, aside from harry. lewis gone for the year and holland struggling could be a part of that
 

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Holland's control ... and letting Cain get 1/3 of the way to 2d that made the double steal work. Napoli's throw was perfect and would have had him had he not had such a big jump.

So Holland is faulted for control and not keeping a runner close ... so he shares some blame with Murphy and Young.

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one thing about holland this season, is his fastball velocity is down a couple mph's. there have been a couple starts recently where it was the same as last season, but it's not really there today and before someone says "he touched 94 a couple times" remember that KC's gun is notoriously a fast one. maybe there is legitimacy to the season after a long post season run the starters struggle, aside from harry. lewis gone for the year and holland struggling could be a part of that

It's going to take a little longer than you think for him to gain all his strength and arm speed back after that nasty virus.
 

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Don't worry kc. Young will erase that error.
 

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one thing about holland this season, is his fastball velocity is down a couple mph's. there have been a couple starts recently where it was the same as last season, but it's not really there today and before someone says "he touched 94 a couple times" remember that KC's gun is notoriously a fast one. maybe there is legitimacy to the season after a long post season run the starters struggle, aside from harry. lewis gone for the year and holland struggling could be a part of that

Holland's velocity has looked fine, even outside of KC, since he came off the the DL, it looked bad before the DL but its back to where it was, its the command thats killing him
 

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I was posting on the other thread and didn't see what happened after the two out error that got Elvis on board. Did MY K on 3 pitches?

Looking on a hanging curve ball right down broadway :L



FIRE WASH NOW!
 

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Just for those curious of upgrading their viewing options this afternoon ... US women are beating Italy 9-5 in water polo in the 4th quarter. They don't have a spare playing because she's the face of the franchise either.
 

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Holland's velocity has looked fine, even outside of KC, since he came off the the DL, it looked bad before the DL but its back to where it was, its the command thats killing him

his velocity is fine to a little above average for a lefty starter, but last year he ranked around 2nd in fastball velocity for a lefty starter (behind david price). thats what i was referring to with his velocity. now i could understand if holland wants to take a little off his fastball to improve his command, but his command is far worse this season coupled with less velocity. not a good combo
 
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Wash is supposed to be a player's manager ... so wonder why he puts the interests of the other 39 guys on the 40man behind the interest of 1 guy who now has no future with TEX beyond 2013.
 

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his velocity is fine to a little above average for a lefty, but last year he ranked around 2nd in fastball velocity for a lefty starter. thats what i was referring to with his velocity. now i could understand if holland wants to take a little off his fastball to improve his command, but his command is far worse this season coupled with less velocity. not a good combo

Most of his recent starts I've seen him around 94-95

And you can't look at his average this year bc thats out the water due to his loss of velocity when he lost that weight due to the virus

And he might not have even built himself all the way back up even
 

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his velocity is fine to a little above average for a lefty, but last year he ranked around 2nd in fastball velocity for a lefty starter (behind david price). thats what i was referring to with his velocity. now i could understand if holland wants to take a little off his fastball to improve his command, but his command is far worse this season coupled with less velocity. not a good combo

Last year the pitchers had more confidence because the offense was performing ... this year without confidence in the offense they are having more trouble with their control.

Most reliable SP since beginning of June has been Feldman simply because I think he really doesn't care about what the offense does and concentrates on his part of the game.
 
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