Series Thread: Rangers Host the Athletics For Four Games August 15-18

[True Rangers Fan]

 

[Kelleyman]

LIVE: Rangers Press Conference | 08/17/2022

Rangers Managing Partner & Majority Owner Ray Davis on the Dismissal of Jon Daniels

www.mlb.com

In a few

 

[saddles]

2020 and the resulting shut down of the minor leagues for a year, slowed the rebuild process considerably? I am wondering if that delay alone was enough to make ownership grow impatient with the rebuild? In a round about way did the pandemic eventually cost JD his job?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

2020 and the resulting shut down of the minor leagues for a year, slowed the rebuild process considerably? I am wondering if that delay alone was enough to make ownership grow impatient with the rebuild? In a round about way did the pandemic eventually cost JD his job?

do we know that ownership was impatient with the rebuild?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Ray Davis on record saying the Rangers need two frontline starters and a middle of the order bat in free agency.

 

[DT LUNA]

2020 and the resulting shut down of the minor leagues for a year, slowed the rebuild process considerably? I am wondering if that delay alone was enough to make ownership grow impatient with the rebuild? In a round about way did the pandemic eventually cost JD his job?

I do not believe the pandemic had any thing to do with JD losing his job. Six losing seasons would have more to do with it. Not saying it was all on JD but I have been around a long time and money is all that matters when it comes down to it. If turned around and we had six winning seasons, JD would still have his job.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

According to Ray, he wanted CY going into the offseason knowing he was the man in charge, hence the reason they did it now.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

How he managed to stay as long as he did is still a mystery to me.

Living on past accomplishments.

For me it started maybe a little before that. Anyone with any common sense could see that the window of opportunity was closing and we knew then we needed to start a major rebuild but we didn't do it. We kept picking up a bunch of has-beens to stay afloat with no chance of ever doing anything of great importance. On top of that JD had gutted the farm system and most of us knew it was going to take a while to ever see it built back up.

If I was to choose who should have been fired first between JD and Woody I would have chosen JD.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I did like what Davis said in response to this move being made to appease the fanbase. He said the fanbase wants wins on the field, and that's what he's trying to get.

 

[saddles]

do we know that ownership was impatient with the rebuild?

Well, that's part of what I was pondering. Did they?

 

[saddles]

I do not believe the pandemic had any thing to do with JD losing his job. Six losing seasons would have more to do with it. Not saying it was all on JD but I have been around a long time and money is all that matters when it comes down to it. If turned around and we had six winning seasons, JD would still have his job.

Yes, but certaun guys like Winn, White, Foscue, Ragans, Taveras, and others would be a year or more ahead of where they are now, and might have been able to contribute to this being a winning season. I am mainly talking about the development repercussions from the pandemic making a difference in when we started winning.

 

[saddles]

Rat Davis did state that two frontline starters and a middle of the lineup bat would be the targets this offseason.

 

[saddles]

Davis also said CY was shocked by the news.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Well, that's part of what I was pondering. Did they?

My guess is that they didn't hold the covid season against JD. Completely out of his hands.

 

[Kelleyman]

I am missing Beas comments. Not finding a link

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Rat Davis did state that two frontline starters and a middle of the lineup bat would be the targets this offseason.

typo?

 

[DT LUNA]

Well, that's part of what I was pondering. Did they?

They must have. In the last six unsuccessful seasons, it was way past time to rebuild. Seems obvious that a rebuild was way past due and owners were not going to continue funding another loseing season sitting on their hands.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

They must have. In the last six unsuccessful seasons, it was way past time to rebuild. Seems obvious that a rebuild was way past due and owners were not going to continue funding another loseing season sitting on their hands.

Doesn't seem likely. If you're going to fire a guy because you think a rebuild took too long to get going, you don't do it when the rebuild is in full swing.

 

[Kelleyman]

To me the timing is about getting fans in the seats. Many have lost faith but they lost STH due to seat moves from people I know

Regardless of my opinion of owner timing. We need better development, pitching, defense, baseball IQ and yes a middle of the order bat

I think some of the marketing of the new stadium and the timing due to the pandemic hurt the wallet

 

[DT LUNA]

Doesn't seem likely. If you're going to fire a guy because you think a rebuild took too long to get going, you don't do it when the rebuild is in full swing.

Seems reasonable to think he saw this year's rebuild going no place and did not want any further delays. Obvious Ray was not happy. He said he wanted two front line pitchers and a bat added in middle of line up and he wasn't satisfied with why we had not accomplished it. May be wrong but it is what it is.