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Could someone get me some data on that? I remember seeing some sort of stat on negative plays negated because of penalties and Josh Allen was the top of the list. Id have to go digging to find that but thats maybe also not the most accurate stat, either, because sometimes QBs take risks when they know a guy jumps off sides.

Just based on watching the games, not looking at stats. In past years, he didn't get the benefit of many non-blatant roughing calls (hitting low, hitting the helmet, etc). His flopping more recently has drawn some of those flags.
 

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Any hit when sliding is a penalty. Launching makes it even worse, hence the ejection. Past history of similar play lands the suspension. All very simple.

If you're within range of a launch, you probably slid too late. Even if you draw a penalty, it's not worth it.

I like Brady's take on this. The onus to keep the QB safe shouldn't all be on the defender. They have their own job to do: prevent more yards and make the play. The way Bo Nix slid on Monday night is how it's done. Slide before you're anywhere near the defender. He protected himself. That's the tradeoff when you want to avoid the hit. You don't get as many yards. If you want more yards, don't slide.

 

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Any hit when sliding is a penalty. Launching makes it even worse, hence the ejection. Past history of similar play lands the suspension. All very simple.
It's not launching. That requires a specific upwards motion. The sliding player can be touched or contacted. It's whether or not the officials deem the contact to be unnecessary roughness to a defenseless player.
 

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How many teams really are good enough to make a conference championship?
Buffalo, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
Detroit, Philly, Minnesota, Green Bay

who else?
Rams, Washington, Denver, Chargers??
I don't see it.
 

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How many teams really are good enough to make a conference championship?
Buffalo, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
Detroit, Philly, Minnesota, Green Bay

who else?
Rams, Washington, Denver, Chargers??
I don't see it.
I think that, besides the teams you mentioned, the two LA teams, Chargers and Rams, are capable of making it - the Rams have a veer good offense that can put up a ton of points as shown today, I think they get kind of underestimated at times, while the Chargers have a very good QB in Herbert and a good D, if their receivers and RBs play well they could make it. The Seahawks might have a chance as well if Geno plays well. Broncos and Commanders have been nice stories but I don’t think they are good enough to make it to a conference title game. I don’t think the Texans or the Bucs/Falcons are good enough to either.
 

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How many teams really are good enough to make a conference championship?
Buffalo, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
Detroit, Philly, Minnesota, Green Bay

who else?
Rams, Washington, Denver, Chargers??
I don't see it.
Chargers I think are still a bit of a sleeper if they actually have everyone healthy on offense.
 

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I think that, besides the teams you mentioned, the two LA teams, Chargers and Rams, are capable of making it - the Rams have a veer good offense that can put up a ton of points as shown today, I think they get kind of underestimated at times, while the Chargers have a very good QB in Herbert and a good D, if their receivers and RBs play well they could make it. The Seahawks might have a chance as well if Geno plays well. Broncos and Commanders have been nice stories but I don’t think they are good enough to make it to a conference title game. I don’t think the Texans or the Bucs/Falcons are good enough to either.

In 1997 the Broncos won the Super Bowl as a wildcard playoff team that had to go on the road throughout the post season. So, it's possible that any team can get hot. However, the odds are severely stacked against this kind of occurrence. Currently, these are the teams that I think can win the Super Bowl this year (ranked in order):
  • Detroit Lions
  • Buffalo Bills
  • Philadelphia Eagles
  • Kansas City Chiefs
  • Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Baltimore Ravens
  • Minnesota Vikings
  • Green Bay Packers
I really think the Broncos, Texans, Chargers, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Commanders are just not there yet but all of these teams are on the rise.
 

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I think that, besides the teams you mentioned, the two LA teams, Chargers and Rams, are capable of making it - the Rams have a veer good offense that can put up a ton of points as shown today, I think they get kind of underestimated at times, while the Chargers have a very good QB in Herbert and a good D, if their receivers and RBs play well they could make it. The Seahawks might have a chance as well if Geno plays well. Broncos and Commanders have been nice stories but I don’t think they are good enough to make it to a conference title game. I don’t think the Texans or the Bucs/Falcons are good enough to either.
you too
3 to 1 or 5 to 1 odds
 

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In 1997 the Broncos won the Super Bowl as a wildcard playoff team that had to go on the road throughout the post season. So, it's possible that any team can get hot. However, the odds are severely stacked against this kind of occurrence. Currently, these are the teams that I think can win the Super Bowl this year (ranked in order):
  • Detroit Lions
  • Buffalo Bills
  • Philadelphia Eagles
  • Kansas City Chiefs
  • Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Baltimore Ravens
  • Minnesota Vikings
  • Green Bay Packers
I really think the Broncos, Texans, Chargers, Seahawks, Buccaneers and Commanders are just not there yet but all of these teams are on the rise.
so many teams have made a SB from the wildcard slot. Not this season is the point.

big difference between the have and the have nots this season.
 

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Chiefs signing Steven Nelson who I guess is coming out of retirement. I'm not sure how much to expect from this but the Chiefs secondary hasnt been the same since Jaylon Watson went down.
 
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