Random FF Thoughts

[TREFF]

Jimmy Garoppolo NFL MVP +10,000 odds right now (bet $10, win $1,000)

damn...I mean it'd never happen, but what's ten bucks worth these days? I've wasted more on those stupid coin pusher games

 

[TKOSpikes]

the only explanation for Brett Maher missing 4 PAT's..he tried

Rian Lindell, 14 seasons

432 for 433 on extra points

 

[TREFF]

Rian Lindell, 14 seasons

432 for 433 on extra points

While missing 4 Pats in one game is indefensible, let's be fair to the poor guy.

All 433 of Lindells kicks were the 20 yards, all of Mahers were 33.

No excuse for missing 4 in a game though. Let's keep that clear

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

In at least 1 of my leagues... EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

 

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[TREFF]

This first week or so of preseason is just weird...I mean, there's real football, but it's really not

 

[Bandit]

This first week or so of preseason is just weird...I mean, there's real football, but it's really not

Yeah it's kind of like just watching the XFL with better camera production value.

 

[leftypower]

Interesting that the Jets signed Cook - just have to wonder what impact that will have on Hall's carries. ...
Less interesting is the Pats signing of Elliott. .... goal-line work perhaps ?

 

[SmokingMonkey]

So is Brian Hartline the best college WR coach or is he just getting all the best WRs cause Ohio State?

 

[Shanemansj13]

So is Brian Hartline the best college WR coach or is he just getting all the best WRs cause Ohio State?

I mean Ohio St has been one of the top WR Universities for some time but he has grown into one of the best college WR coaches but most important he is one of the best recruiters. Here recently their WR's have been ridiculous but I will say they do a great job at developing them and fitting them into the offense to maximize their skill sets too.

I believe he was promoted to OC/WR coach role this year

 

[Shanemansj13]

I always forget Jameson Williams was a Buckeye, they just didn't have room for him.

Currently, Harrison Jr and Egbuka
Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson and Jameson
KJ Hill, Parris Campbell and Terry McLaurin

That's just players drafted since 2019

I believe Harrison Jr will be the best Ohio St WR since Cris Carter

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I mean Ohio St has been one of the top WR Universities for some time but he has grown into one of the best college WR coaches but most important he is one of the best recruiters. Here recently their WR's have been ridiculous but I will say they do a great job at developing them and fitting them into the offense to maximize their skill sets too.

I believe he was promoted to OC/WR coach role this year

Hartline Impressive Run of Recruiting



more top WRs landed than Bama and Georgia combined is pretty wild

 

[Shanemansj13]

Hartline Impressive Run of Recruiting

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more top WRs landed than Bama and Georgia combined is pretty wild

I knew they were close to the top but I didn't realize it was that lopsided. Wow

 

[Shanemansj13]

Cockcroft: The best picks for each slot in Rounds 1 and 2​

Fantasy football: The best picks for each draft slot in Rounds 1 and 2​

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Draft Slot 1​

Round 1 (Pick 1 overall): It's Justin Jeffersonfor me, period. He was the No. 1 wide receiver in fantasy points last season and is sixth in scoring among all players covering his three-year span in the league thus far. While we could expand this discussion to include Ja'Marr Chase or either of the top two running backs (Christian McCaffreyand Austin Ekeler), this is an important spot from which to discuss the philosophy of how you should begin building your team.

This season, the top running backs are generally an older bunch than in years past and they were less productive on a per-game basis than their predecessors.

Tristan's picks: Justin Jefferson and Jaylen Waddle (10-team) or Travis Etienne Jr. (12-team)

Draft Slot 2​

Round 1 (Pick 2): Here's the spot at which the RB-versus-WR debate begins to get more logical. Christian McCaffrey and Austin Ekeler have a handy, PPR-driven advantage over the rest of the position, though both come with those advancing ages and wear-and-tear questions (the latter especially for McCaffrey). You can go running back here, but I'm still not.

Tristan's picks: Ja'Marr Chase and Jonathan Taylor (10-team) or DeVonta Smith (12-team)

Draft Slot 3​

Round 1 (Pick 3): Assuming your league followed suit with Jefferson-Chase opening selections, this pick unlocks another pair of wide receivers as well as by far the top tight end. That considered, it's probably wisest to break the seal on running backs, being that the wide receiver position is rich enough in talent that there should still be a good one awaiting you in Round 2.

Tristan's picks: Christian McCaffrey and Garrett Wilson (10-team) or Tee Higgins (12-team)

Draft Slot 4​

Round 1 (Pick 4): The case for Kelce rings louder as each pick passes, but this is the spot at which the second tier of running backs (Saquon Barkley and Bijan Robinson) needs to enter the discussion. Despite the absurdity that was Robinson's RB3 listing on the Falcons' depth chart for the preseason finale, the rookie is absolutely worthy of a first-round selection, and he's absolutely going to start for them and absorb a reasonably hefty workload.

Tristan's picks: Tyreek Hill and Nick Chubb(10-team) or Josh Jacobs (12-team)

Draft Slot 5​

Round 1 (Pick 5): We're in that range of the draft where fantasy managers are faced with the age-old question: upside or best return on investment? At this point, you'll still have two of Christian McCaffrey, Austin Ekeler, Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelce available -- as well as potentially all of Saquon Barkley, Bijan Robinson and Cooper Kupp -- providing a good array of upside (McCaffrey/Barkley/Kupp) versus ROI (Kelce/Hill/Robinson). Ekeler, meanwhile, falls a little in between these categories, and he's the one I wouldn't let sneak past this point.

Tristan's picks: Austin Ekeler and Amon-Ra St. Brown (10-team) or Jaylen Waddle (12-team)

Draft Slot 6​

Round 1 (Pick 6): A Travis Kelce first-round case is not difficult to make. Last season, he had the second-largest fantasy point differential compared to the No. 2 tight end (100.9) and the No. 11 tight end (187.8) in history, while scoring the second-most fantasy points ever by a tight end. Kelce has had a top-15 overall VBD in each of the past three seasons, which is unheard of from a tight end. This is as far as I'm willing to let him slide, and I can make the case he's every bit as legitimate a No. 1 pick as anyone on draft boards besides Jefferson.

Tristan's picks: Travis Kelce and Tony Pollard (10-team) or Jonathan Taylor (12-team).

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Draft slot 7​

Round 1 (Pick 7): If Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase, Christian McCaffrey, Austin Ekeler or Travis Kelce still remain on the board, this is about as far as they should fall in any draft. So let's assume they're all gone, in which case it's a choice between a second-tier running back, like Saquon Barkley, Bijan Robinson and possibly Derrick Henry, or a second-tier wide receiver, like Tyreek Hill, Cooper Kupp, Stefon Diggs, Davante Adams and possibly CeeDee Lamb or A.J. Brown. At Pick 7 -- and 8, really -- strategizing this combination with your second-round pick comes into play, as there's a greater likelihood of one of those wide receivers making it back to you than one of the RBs. Are you OK with going WR/WR to start? I am, at least for this season, because the third- and fourth-round running backs typically available in ESPN leagues include Travis Etienne Jr., Najee Harris, Aaron Jones and Jahmyr Gibbs, all of which are perfectly fine fantasy RB1s. It's why I'd go for Kupp's per-game upside with this pick.

Tristan's picks: Cooper Kupp and A.J. Brown (10-team) or Amon-Ra St. Brown (12-team)

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Draft slot 8​

Round 1 (Pick 8): Picks 7, 8 and (to a degree) 9 tend to be in similar circumstances this season, facing the remainders of the player pools discussed with the previous draft slot. I'm going running back here, as Saquon Barkley and Bijan Robinson grant enough of an advantage over the position's next tier -- especially with the uncertain contract statuses of Jonathan Taylor and Josh Jacobs -- to warrant picks before the end of a 10-team first round.

Tristan's picks: Saquon Barkley and CeeDee Lamb (10-team) or A.J. Brown (12-team)

Draft slot 9​

Round 1 (Pick 9): If Jonathan Taylor and/or Josh Jacobs were certain to be ready for their usual Week 1 roles, they would both be in the mix for this pick (if not the couple before it). If you're the gambling type with your first-rounder, this is where you can begin considering them. My perspective, however, is that the uncertainty surrounding them strengthens the value of would-be same-tier RBs Saquon Barkley and Bijan Robinson, and that "reckless" is a better adjective than "gambling" when describing a Taylor or Jacobs pick at this juncture. Robinson shouldn't make it past this pick.

Tristan's picks: Bijan Robinson and Davante Adams (10-team) or Garrett Wilson (12-team)

Draft slot 10​

Round 1 (Pick 10): The toughest part of drawing the 10-slot is what will remain for it in Rounds 3 and 4, not what's there in Rounds 1 and 2. That's especially true if any of the four slots preceding this one goes WR/WR to start. This year, 10-team managers slotted here are generally looking at maybe one of the top three quarterbacks, maybe Jonathan Taylor or Josh Jacobs ... but otherwise generally Najee Harris, Aaron Jones or Jahmyr Gibbs among running backs, Tee Higgins or Deebo Samuel among wide receivers, and Mark Andrews at tight end, in the third and fourth rounds. If you're fortunate to have one of my top four RBs (Christian McCaffrey, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Bijan Robinson) to choose from here, scoop him up. Otherwise if you're fine with the WR/WR combo, take Stefon Diggs and CeeDee Lamb (or Davante Adams, if you prefer).

Tristan's picks: Stefon Diggs and Derrick Henry (10-team) or Tony Pollard (12-team)

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Draft slot 11 (12-team leagues)​

Round 1 (Pick 11): It's a similar conundrum for anyone in the 10-, 11- or 12-slot this season, as far as what might remain for the team at running back come Rounds 3 and 4. The difference is that the prospects of the RB talent pool drying up increase here, so mind your answer to the question raised in the 10-slot before scoffing at taking the chance on Derrick Henry's age/workload concerns, Jonathan Taylor's or Josh Jacobs' contract concerns or Tony Pollard's presence on a team that often likes divvying up carries.

Tristan's picks: Derrick Henry and CeeDee Lamb

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Draft slot 12 (12-team leagues)​

Round 1 (Pick 12): Would you believe that, in National Fantasy Football Championship (NFFC) leagues during the past week, the No. 12 player selected on average is Patrick Mahomes? I'm still not ready to swing the pendulum back this dramatically. It remains far more essential to build your team around running backs and wide receivers.

Tristan's picks: Davante Adams and Tony Pollard

 

[broncosmitty]

In at least 1 of my leagues... EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

Happened a couple times tonight. So figured screw it, waited to the last round.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Happened a couple times tonight. So figured screw it, waited to the last round.

And? Who did you wind up with?

 

[SmokingMonkey]

And? Who did you wind up with?

 

[broncosmitty]

And? Who did you wind up with?

Lil Rusty, but he’s already on the hot seat.