Commissioner's Office

[SmokingMonkey]

General thread to discuss questions and concerns from commissioners.

Just so happens I've got one that I've been thinking about recently

Got a guy that's behind on paying dues, partly my fault for being lenient, but I'm a big believer in personal responsibility and character when it comes to things of this nature.

I've asked him to settle up at end of season, and have sent a reminder recently. He responded to first message that he'd pay everything, then never did. Claimed no money issues, was just forgetful/lazy. Guy that knows him better than I confirmed that there aren't any known/public money issues.

Hasn't responded to follow up message (been a week)

Instead of asking him to pay again, I'm thinking about posting an updated commissioner rule - if you don't pay your dues, you aren't eligible for winnings that season and possibly kicked out altogether.

Too harsh?

In my opinion, this is gambling, it isn't a charity. Maybe one day UNICEF will get into the fantasy football commissioner racket, but until then, the dues are the dues

 

[HaroldSeattle]

General thread to discuss questions and concerns from commissioners.

Just so happens I've got one that I've been thinking about recently

Got a guy that's behind on paying dues, partly my fault for being lenient, but I'm a big believer in personal responsibility and character when it comes to things of this nature.

I've asked him to settle up at end of season, and have sent a reminder recently. He responded to first message that he'd pay everything, then never did. Claimed no money issues, was just forgetful/lazy. Guy that knows him better than I confirmed that there aren't any known/public money issues.

Hasn't responded to follow up message (been a week)

Instead of asking him to pay again, I'm thinking about posting an updated commissioner rule - if you don't pay your dues, you aren't eligible for winnings that season and possibly kicked out altogether.

Too harsh?

In my opinion, this is gambling, it isn't a charity. Maybe one day UNICEF will get into the fantasy football commissioner racket, but until then, the dues are the dues

I'm a hardliner when it comes to dues. If they haven't been paid even after a reminder (that they are past due) then just replace him. Been my experience that slow payers remain slow payers and sometimes end up not paying period and have to be replaced any how.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I'm a hardliner when it comes to dues. If they haven't been paid even after a reminder (that they are past due) then just replace him. Been my experience that slow payers remain slow payers and sometimes end up not paying period and have to be replaced any how.

I don't disagree... but replacing an owner during the season is not really an option in redraft leagues... sure you may get a good samaritan to help you out.., but it really doesn't solve the NOW problem...

in this situation of course, it is during the off-season... so replacing them is not a problem, but how to divvy out the winnings is...

I had a SF league on this board where I had a similar problem where one owner did not pay... I had to change the winnings from originally advertised... and we did not do the league the next year... no, that was not the only reason I did not renew the league.. but It was one of the big reasons...

 

[molsaniceman]

Same happened to me and i gave him till day before playoffs began and he still didnt pay so i put next team in the playoffs never heard from him again lol
I also deducted his non payment from the pool and everyone was cool with it
Still playing with some of the same people going on 10 yrs

 

[averagejoe]

One simple fix in a work league:
When we renewed the season, we removed all the owners. So all teams were "unassigned." Once you paid up, you were assigned your team.
Obviously if you dont pay before the draft (or the NFL season starts), you're replaceable.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

One simple fix in a work league:
When we renewed the season, we removed all the owners. So all teams were "unassigned." Once you paid up, you were assigned your team.
Obviously if you dont pay before the draft (or the NFL season starts), you're replaceable.

Again. This seems reasonable. But has a big hole. If the owners who don’t pay don’t draft then you either now have a league size that the other owners didn’t agree to or you have to find new owners. If you need to find new owners then you may have to change the draft date. And we all know how hard the draft date is to set.

Sometimes you have to be lenient and let that team that didn’t pay yet play. This is generally not a problem amongst friends. And most of us do money leagues with friends/family. But what if you are not??

 

[averagejoe]

Again. This seems reasonable. But has a big hole. If the owners who don’t pay don’t draft then you either now have a league size that the other owners didn’t agree to or you have to find new owners.

Youre over thinking it.
No way the league is waiting until draft night for payment.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Youre over thinking it.
No way the league is waiting until draft night for payment.

Of course not. But you said replace the owners who haven’t paid yet. That is making the assumption you have options. And that you can get that replacement in on time.

 

[averagejoe]

Of course not. But you said replace the owners who haven’t paid yet. That is making the assumption you have options. And that you can get that replacement in on time.

The draft date is published so owners can pay well in advance. Thats for a redraft league.
The verbiage i added about the NFL season starting had more to do dynasty leagues who may have already drafted but not paid. Again, that date is published so owners have ample time to get their finances in order.

As Tom Hanks said in Youve Got Mail, "Its business, not personal."

 

[Chef99]

General thread to discuss questions and concerns from commissioners.

Just so happens I've got one that I've been thinking about recently

Got a guy that's behind on paying dues, partly my fault for being lenient, but I'm a big believer in personal responsibility and character when it comes to things of this nature.

I've asked him to settle up at end of season, and have sent a reminder recently. He responded to first message that he'd pay everything, then never did. Claimed no money issues, was just forgetful/lazy. Guy that knows him better than I confirmed that there aren't any known/public money issues.

Hasn't responded to follow up message (been a week)

Instead of asking him to pay again, I'm thinking about posting an updated commissioner rule - if you don't pay your dues, you aren't eligible for winnings that season and possibly kicked out altogether.

Too harsh?

In my opinion, this is gambling, it isn't a charity. Maybe one day UNICEF will get into the fantasy football commissioner racket, but until then, the dues are the dues

I don't think it's harsh, I think it's a matter of adhering to the rules.

Barring unforeseen circumstances, of course.

 

[leftypower]

I've experienced the same a number of times over years past. Same bunch of guys for 8+yrs now and a couple are always late. Luckily for me the 'Habitually Late' are all in another pay league (much bigger $$) run by Bandit so when they sign up for his, he collects mine as well.
Another option is switching to Fantrax and using the 'Treasurer' feature for fee collection. With it you cannot access the team at all until the bill is paid. Same goes for payouts - it all goes through Fantrax and it's free.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I've experienced the same a number of times over years past. Same bunch of guys for 8+yrs now and a couple are always late. Luckily for me the 'Habitually Late' are all in another pay league (much bigger $$) run by Bandit so when they sign up for his, he collects mine as well.
Another option is switching to Fantrax and using the 'Treasurer' feature for fee collection. With it you cannot access the team at all until the bill is paid. Same goes for payouts - it all goes through Fantrax and it's free.

I can also manually do this via sleeper, as Joe mentioned. Just unassign owners from their team until dues are paid each year.

Steal an element from Bandits league where the teams that are compliant can make trades sooner than those that aren't

 

[SmokingMonkey]

**Unassign them from team doesn't boot them out of the league, so I can just attach their username back to their team once paid

 

[SmokingMonkey]

 

[averagejoe]

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