Random FF Thoughts

[wilwhite]

not sure where you people are seeing season three is not good... if you like season one and 2 then you will like season three...

the complaint of season three has to be political, as they have a couple gay plot lines...

but the characters are what you come to see, and they are still all true to form...

I dunno, I really liked Seasons 1 and 2, and the first two episodes of Season 3 were so boring and predictable I can barely remember what happened. And as you can tell I haven't exactly leaped to watch the next episode (as I always did before).

I've heard it gets better.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I dunno, I really liked Seasons 1 and 2, and the first two episodes of Season 3 were so boring and predictable I can barely remember what happened. And as you can tell I haven't exactly leaped to watch the next episode (as I always did before).

I've heard it gets better.

that's a weird statement,.. if you enjoyed the first 2 seasons so much, then 2 episodes should not be enough to give up on the season, or to even make an opinion about it... but to each their own...

 

[SteelersPride]

Mystic Quest is funny too, imo.

I’d say there’s a good dozen great shows on Apple.

Good call. First episode easily hooked me in. Ive been searching for a new show.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

Question for all you fantasy owners.

I am in a 10 team PPR dynasty league on FanTrax.

We keep 14 players.

Our starting lineup consists of the following:

QB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex: RB/WR
Flex: RB/WR/TE

DL
ER/LB
LB
DB
K

Based on our starting lineup, RB’s and WR’s are in high demand of course.

Rookie RB’s all go within the first 2 rounds, as do most of the rookie WR’s.

Rookie QB’s rarely go early, same for TE’s ( except for when Pitts was a rookie ).

1 have the 3rd pick in the draft ( it’s in August ). Robinson and Gibbs are pretty guaranteed to go 1-2.

So, my question to you guys: Who do I take at 3?

There isn’t a Chase type WR in this class, and based on where the top WR’s went, not really excited about them at 3. Charbonnet is considered the next RB to be drafted, but again, don’t like his situation either.

Thoughts?

 

[TREFF]

Question for all you fantasy owners.

I am in a 10 team PPR dynasty league on FanTrax.

We keep 14 players.

Our starting lineup consists of the following:

QB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex: RB/WR
Flex: RB/WR/TE

DL
ER/LB
LB
DB
K

Based on our starting lineup, RB’s and WR’s are in high demand of course.

Rookie RB’s all go within the first 2 rounds, as do most of the rookie WR’s.

Rookie QB’s rarely go early, same for TE’s ( except for when Pitts was a rookie ).

1 have the 3rd pick in the draft ( it’s in August ). Robinson and Gibbs are pretty guaranteed to go 1-2.

So, my question to you guys: Who do I take at 3?

There isn’t a Chase type WR in this class, and based on where the top WR’s went, not really excited about them at 3. Charbonnet is considered the next RB to be drafted, but again, don’t like his situation either.

Thoughts?

For me #3 is Nigba or Johnston, without question. All other RB's are a big reach after those two...even if one does like Charbonnet- which I don't, at all.

Terrible year to draft anywhere from 3 to about 8, the real value in this year's class is TE and QB, and the time to get them is on the bottom half of the first round into the early second, after everyone has reached for the schmucks.
Ideally you could trade down, but unless there's a big believer in one of those wideouts, or a really crazy person wiling to trade up for a RB at 3, you're not likely to get what you might normally expect for such a primo pick.

 

[wilwhite]

Question for all you fantasy owners.

I am in a 10 team PPR dynasty league on FanTrax.

We keep 14 players.

Our starting lineup consists of the following:

QB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex: RB/WR
Flex: RB/WR/TE

DL
ER/LB
LB
DB
K

Based on our starting lineup, RB’s and WR’s are in high demand of course.

Rookie RB’s all go within the first 2 rounds, as do most of the rookie WR’s.

Rookie QB’s rarely go early, same for TE’s ( except for when Pitts was a rookie ).

1 have the 3rd pick in the draft ( it’s in August ). Robinson and Gibbs are pretty guaranteed to go 1-2.

So, my question to you guys: Who do I take at 3?

There isn’t a Chase type WR in this class, and based on where the top WR’s went, not really excited about them at 3. Charbonnet is considered the next RB to be drafted, but again, don’t like his situation either.

Thoughts?

Trade down. There's a ton of value in the late first and the whole second round this year. Try to get more picks.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Question for all you fantasy owners.

I am in a 10 team PPR dynasty league on FanTrax.

We keep 14 players.

Our starting lineup consists of the following:

QB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex: RB/WR
Flex: RB/WR/TE

DL
ER/LB
LB
DB
K

Based on our starting lineup, RB’s and WR’s are in high demand of course.

Rookie RB’s all go within the first 2 rounds, as do most of the rookie WR’s.

Rookie QB’s rarely go early, same for TE’s ( except for when Pitts was a rookie ).

1 have the 3rd pick in the draft ( it’s in August ). Robinson and Gibbs are pretty guaranteed to go 1-2.

So, my question to you guys: Who do I take at 3?

There isn’t a Chase type WR in this class, and based on where the top WR’s went, not really excited about them at 3. Charbonnet is considered the next RB to be drafted, but again, don’t like his situation either.

Thoughts?

You have to shop it.

Many ways to go about that, but in a 10 team, I’m shooting for the sky.

1.3 + 2024 1st for player X
1.3 + WR3 for WR2
1.3 + RB4 for RB3

Its value is probably deflated but you never know.

Also, who’s your QB(s)? TE(s)?
If no takers for the pick, I might be inclined to take Richardson or even Mayer.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I would take JSN or Johnston, but other routes to go if you don't want to pick:

- check the cost to move up from 1.03 to 1.02 and draft Gibbs for full PPR
- trade back and acquire an extra '24 first round pick
- look at TKO's trade options for ideas to target a specific player vs future picks
- don't draft Mayer or Kincaid as early as 1.03, neither should come off the board ahead of JSN, Johnston, Addison, or Richardson (and prob not before Flowers either, but older rookie WR on the Ravens, I understand if people pass)

 

[averagejoe]

have the 3rd pick in the draft ( it’s in August ).

Sounds like you have time for camp battles and preliminary depth charts to take shape.

If things stay status quo by August, and if you cant shop the pick, i'd lean to drafting LV TE Mayer. He has a clear path to start, plus he fills a vacancy that already garnered top 5 TE fantasy numbers.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Sounds like you have time for camp battles and preliminary depth charts to take shape.

If things stay status quo by August, and if you cant shop the pick, i'd lean to drafting LV TE Mayer. He has a clear path to start, plus he fills a vacancy that already garnered top 5 TE fantasy numbers.

I'd be wary using that premium of a draft pick on an unathletic TE that played college ball on a team that force fed him targets since that didn't have any decent WRs.

@TREFF @Bandit @Clemson74

looks like I should've asked for a bit more in that Mayer trade!

 

[TKOSpikes]

I'd be wary using that premium of a draft pick on an unathletic TE that played college ball on a team that force fed him targets since that didn't have any decent WRs.

@TREFF @Bandit @Clemson74

looks like I should've asked for a bit more in that Mayer trade!

I think the point is that #3 has nobody “worthy” of drafting.

Might as well draft Richardson and see if he’s Josh Allen.

 

[TREFF]

I'd be wary using that premium of a draft pick on an unathletic TE that played college ball on a team that force fed him targets since that didn't have any decent WRs.

@TREFF @Bandit @Clemson74

looks like I should've asked for a bit more in that Mayer trade!

Well, I will say I was surprised to see the#2 kickback on your side. I would've expected a bare minimum of the #1 straight up, if not more than the 1. That's where I was planning on setting the ransom, based on who the trade partner was, his history, and the fact that Mayer is the first legitimate potential fantasy asset out of ND in what's seems like forever.

Now as to Mayers himself, no I wouldn't want to use a pick that high on him either. But his athleticism doesn't concern me. He's a smart TE, who can catch, but more importantly, he's a plus blocker, which puts him on the feild sooner, and more often, and allows him to play off the line, doesn't tip the offensive play to the D (when your TE is an asset in the blocking area, the D isn't going to assume he's there just to catch a pass, like Pitts) matching him up against linebackers more often than DB's, so he doesn't need to be Pitts, athletically, to be a strong fantasy TE.

But, when drafting, if you've got a target, and you don't think you can get a trade worked, if he's not gonna be there the next time you pick, you take him, whether it's a reach or not. Conviction!

 

[Bandit]

I'd be wary using that premium of a draft pick on an unathletic TE that played college ball on a team that force fed him targets since that didn't have any decent WRs.

@TREFF @Bandit @Clemson74

looks like I should've asked for a bit more in that Mayer trade!

Yeah he's a tight end though. That position is just notoriously tough to predict at the next level. Some of them just never get it and hardly any of them ever get it until at least year 3, so it's just a matter of whether you want to wait that long on it. I turn over my roster way too often to think that way although I am testing that this year in my league with all the picks I had and have to try and be patient with them. Luckily for me I still have enough veterans to stay competitive in the meantime.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

You have to shop it.

Many ways to go about that, but in a 10 team, I’m shooting for the sky.

1.3 + 2024 1st for player X
1.3 + WR3 for WR2
1.3 + RB4 for RB3

Its value is probably deflated but you never know.

Also, who’s your QB(s)? TE(s)?
If no takers for the pick, I might be inclined to take Richardson or even Mayer.

My QB is Hurts

My TE’s are Engram and Taysom Hill, also have Bellinger as we haven’t done our keepers yet, so he could still be a possibility. But based on production, I’m planning on keeping the first 2.

 

[TREFF]

Yeah he's a tight end though. That position is just notoriously tough to predict at the next level. Some of them just never get it and hardly any of them ever get it until at least year 3, so it's just a matter of whether you want to wait that long on it. I turn over my roster way too often to think that way although I am testing that this year in my league with all the picks I had and have to try and be patient with them. Luckily for me I still have enough veterans to stay competitive in the meantime.

You ain't lyin'. All true. Fer sure

It's just that the mere possibility that Mayers, or Kincaid for that matter, or even one of the QB's, would even be considerable that early, is much more of an indictment on the quality of the RB/WR's in this class, than it is an endorsement for either of them though.

TE's may be shit to predict, but hardly anyone other than Bijan and Gibbs, Ngiba and Johnston, is currently predicted to be much of anything, and if they are, in theory, easier to predict, than it only makes sense to not go after them, and look elsewhere. At least that's my theory

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

My 14 keepers will likely be:

Hurts
J. Chase
Waddle
Jam. Williams
OBJ
Engram
Tay. Hill
Dam. Harris
R. Stevenson
Breece Hall
Maxx Crosby
Christian Wilkins
Devin Singletary
And one of Jaylen Warren/CEH/Treylon Burks/Michael Carter/D’Onta Foreman/Curtis Samuel/Cordarrelle Patterson for my final keeper

For those questioning the defensive keepers. Finding good DL that are consistently productive is very hard, and I have 2 great ones.

Crosby scored 283.5 pts last season ( average of 16.68 pts per )
Wilkins scored 226.5 pts last season ( average of 13.32 pts per ).

Anytime you can get a DL to average double digits or more, you keep them.

Same goes for LBers, but I done have any studs.

My daughters team has Oluokun who was worth a whopping 368 pts last season averaging 21.65 pts per.

 

[Bandit]

You ain't lyin'. All true. Fer sure

It's just that the mere possibility that Mayers, or Kincaid for that matter, or even one of the QB's, would even be considerable that early, is much more of an indictment on the quality of the RB/WR's in this class, than it is an endorsement for either of them though.

TE's may be shit to predict, but hardly anyone other than Bijan and Gibbs, Ngiba and Johnston, is currently predicted to be much of anything, and if they are, in theory, easier to predict, than it only makes sense to not go after them, and look elsewhere. At least that's my theory

That is very true. In this class after those 4 and I would include Addison in that list as well so make it 5, but then it falls off significantly from a talent standpoint.

 

[TKOSpikes]

My 14 keepers will likely be:

Hurts
J. Chase
Waddle
Jam. Williams
OBJ
Engram
Tay. Hill
Dam. Harris
R. Stevenson
Breece Hall
Maxx Crosby
Christian Wilkins
Devin Singletary
And one of Jaylen Warren/CEH/Treylon Burks/Michael Carter/D’Onta Foreman/Curtis Samuel/Cordarrelle Patterson for my final keeper

For those questioning the defensive keepers. Finding good DL that are consistently productive is very hard, and I have 2 great ones.

Crosby scored 283.5 pts last season ( average of 16.68 pts per )
Wilkins scored 226.5 pts last season ( average of 13.32 pts per ).

Anytime you can get a DL to average double digits or more, you keep them.

Same goes for LBers, but I done have any studs.

My daughters team has Oluokun who was worth a whopping 368 pts last season averaging 21.65 pts per.

This settles it for me. Take Richardson unless someone wants to pay up for the pick.

 

[TREFF]

That is very true. In this class after those 4 and I would include Addison in that list as well so make it 5, but then it falls off significantly from a talent standpoint.

Addison fell into a primo spot fer sure. And it'll likely equate to some decent numbers-if he's worth his salt and ends up as the other outside WR. I'm not entirely convinced that KJ Osbourne isn't the sneaky 'other WR' to own in Minnesota though. .could be wrong.

 

[averagejoe]

This settles it for me. Take Richardson unless someone wants to pay up for the pick.

I'm not wishing any ill will on anyone, but I avoided Richardson deliberately. How can a guy connect on 43% of his passes in a non-NFL environment and expect to be better in the NFL?