politics thread

[skinsdad62]

You’re going to see a lot more of this after the Mueller probe ends-


the Left will hide behind the “I won’t legitimize your point of view by debating you” on Russia collusion.


This is intellectual BS plain and simple.

Starting to see this here .

For 2 years people on this board thought this mueller investigation was the end all be all . It turns out no collusion was found and they point to Bs process crimes or crimes that had nothing to do with trumps campaign . They talk about why Trump isn’t draining the swamp but forget comey and McCabe were shown the door for corruption with rosenstein following soon . They forget page ,strzok Orr and his wife , fusion GPS have been exposed and the dossier was fake and bought and paid for by the HRC campaign . They forget Donna Brazile giving out debate questions to HRC prior to the CNN debate . They forget wassurman - Shultz had to resign her post as democratic chairman because of her involvement in rigging the primary against Bernie . Shouldn’t the mueller investigation touch on those things ? How about the HRC campaign and the dems let them examine their hacked servers they claim the Russians hacked ? I have now answered the question DGF asked me in his attempt to railroad a conclusion from me or accuse me of laying under the bed . Now you have a fuller answer . And for the above reasons this is how we know this investigation made by HRC donars is corrupt .

 

[skinsdad62]

There were a little over 1200 subpoenas issued against the Clinton administration (Benghazi) and by comparison a mere 80 thus far against the Trump administration. I agree with your admonition, hindsight is a bitch, isn't it?

Well the Benghazi investigation was legit . Obama abandoned our people to die over a election

 

[gkekoa]

There were a little over 1200 subpoenas issued against the Clinton administration (Benghazi) and by comparison a mere 80 thus far against the Trump administration. I agree with your admonition, hindsight is a bitch, isn't it?

US citizens died and there was a well-documented lie being told afterwards in Benghazi.

As for this investigation, there is a plot to use affiliation to justify investigation into personal details without cause. Let me look at this, so I can find out that, so maybe I can find cause to go after him. This is extremely dangerous for a country founded on liberty and limited government.

 

[skinsdad62]

This could be huge

 

[skinsdad62]

We have an Open Border, as long as you:


1) show up at border

2) have a child with you

3) claim credible fear

4) avoid showing up at your immigration hearing


The word is out, folks.


Our immigration laws are being systematically exploited. It’s only going to get worse.

 

[skinsdad62]

If true that didn’t take long

 

[Stymietee]

Well the Benghazi investigation was legit . Obama abandoned our people to die over a election

I'll give you that despite the fact that I disagree with you. However, possible Bank fraud, possible campaign finance violations, campaign cover-ups, possibility of a compromised office holder, obstruction of justice, possible theft/misappropriation of inaugural funds, influence from foreign advisories, Tax and insurance fraud, Emoluments violations, and investigation into the use of the Trump foundation as a pass thru, all come to mind (I'm sure that there are plenty of others) and rightfully should have been investigated by the last HOR. They failed to do their duty and as a result this congress is merely catching up.

Now you're going to hear a whole lot of BULLSHIT about "presidential harassment," but yeah he unnecessarily bought it on himself. All he has to do is continue doing his job and let the chips fall where they will. If he's clean it all comes out in the wash, if not, oh well!!

 

[Stymietee]

US citizens died and there was a well-documented lie being told afterwards in Benghazi.

As for this investigation, there is a plot to use affiliation to justify investigation into personal details without cause. Let me look at this, so I can find out that, so maybe I can find cause to go after him. This is extremely dangerous for a country founded on liberty and limited government.

Where are the charges? Convictions? You have to admit, believing something is a far cry from proving it in a court of law or through congressional hearings. There was a republican house and senate, yet not one, not a single charge or conviction.

 

[skinsdad62]

I'll give you that despite the fact that I disagree with you. However, possible Bank fraud, possible campaign finance violations, campaign cover-ups, possibility of a compromised office holder, obstruction of justice, possible theft/misappropriation of inaugural funds, influence from foreign advisories, Tax and insurance fraud, Emoluments violations, and investigation into the use of the Trump foundation as a pass thru, all come to mind (I'm sure that there are plenty of others) and rightfully should have been investigated by the last HOR. They failed to do their duty and as a result this congress is merely catching up.

Now you're going to hear a whole lot of BULLSHIT about "presidential harassment," but yeah he unnecessarily bought it on himself. All he has to do is continue doing his job and let the chips fall where they will. If he's clean it all comes out in the wash, if not, oh well!!

You have to have probable cause. Sty and there isn’t any . None at all it’s just a scam by crybabies who can’t accept the election results

 

[skinsdad62]

Where are the charges? Convictions? You have to admit, believing something is a far cry from proving it in a court of law or through congressional hearings. There was a republican house and senate, yet not one, not a single charge or conviction.

Because. Comey let her off buddy. And he gave immunity deals to the others .

 

[Stymietee]

The difference between now and then is that during the Benghazi hearings almost everyone let the process play out. I wonder why there's such a fuss and rush to at minimum let the process play our again?

I suggest that the ONLY reason for this is that the office holder has an "R" and not a "D" signifying party affiliation.

 

[Stymietee]

You have to have probable cause. Sty and there isn’t any . None at all it’s just a scam by crybabies who can’t accept the election results

Never mind, I respect you too much to write that immediate response. If you saw it, before I changed it to this, apologies!

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

“Russian collusion" will seamlessly become "business corruption," just like "global warming suddenly became "climate change."

 

[Toadman005]

“Russian collusion" will seamlessly become "business corruption," just like "global warming suddenly became "climate change."

Yep.

That was the point of the whole Cohen debacle. An excuse to continue investigation or launch a new one. Disgusting.

 

[gkekoa]

Where are the charges? Convictions? You have to admit, believing something is a far cry from proving it in a court of law or through congressional hearings. There was a republican house and senate, yet not one, not a single charge or conviction.

Hard to have convictions when this is said...

James Comey stated Hillary sent classified emails from her personal server, but he claimed she didn’t know it was classified. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Yet, a sailor takes a picture of a submarine and gets charged.

Hmmm.

 

[Sharkinva]

Hard to have convictions when this is said...

James Comey stated Hillary sent classified emails from her personal server, but he claimed she didn’t know it was classified. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Yet, a sailor takes a picture of a submarine and gets charged.

Hmmm.

Not sure when the last time you were on a Nuclear sub or ship. But there are signs posted at every hatch no photography or audio recording equipment allowed under and circumstance when entering any secured area.

 

[gkekoa]

Not sure when the last time you were on a Nuclear sub or ship. But there are signs posted at every hatch no photography or audio recording equipment allowed under and circumstance when entering any secured area.

1996

There are signs; however, does every little thing fall under this? Isn’t it possible the sailor thought a picture could be harmless and took the pictures?

Hillary Clinton took a class on handling of classified materials. You take that class so you can’t use the excuse, I didn’t know. Hillary signed papers in order to gain a top secret clearance.

Sty asked where the convictions were. I was simply pointing out you can’t have a conviction if the law enforcement body admits she broke the law, but says we won’t press charges because it was an accident...which is total bullshit. She knew damn well what she was doing. Even if she didn’t, ignorance is not an excuse.

 

[Sharkinva]

1996

There are signs; however, does every little thing fall under this? Isn’t it possible the sailor thought a picture could be harmless and took the pictures?

Hillary Clinton took a class on handling of classified materials. You take that class so you can’t use the excuse, I didn’t know. Hillary signed papers in order to gain a top secret clearance.

Sty asked where the convictions were. I was simply pointing out you can’t have a conviction if the law enforcement body admits she broke the law, but says we won’t press charges because it was an accident...which is total bullshit. She knew damn well what she was doing. Even if she didn’t, ignorance is not an excuse.

So I will just say, I hope you stick to that line

Ignorance is no excuse if and when Trump or his kids are charged.

Because in truth is I didnt think Hillary should have gotten a pass. And neither do I think Trumps years of misdeeds should be slottted under boys will be boys, he wasnt trying to do anything wrong, or any of the other vast array of excuses I expect Trump Supporters will make.

 

[Toadman005]

So I will just say, I hope you stick to that line

Ignorance is no excuse if and when Trump or his kids are charged.

Because in truth is I didnt think Hillary should have gotten a pass. And neither do I think Trumps years of misdeeds should be slottted under boys will be boys, he wasnt trying to do anything wrong, or any of the other vast array of excuses I expect Trump Supporters will make.

Alleged.