phils really fleeced the rangers big time

[_phiLLies_]

i understand why they wanted hamels, but what a huge mistake. they aren't going anywhere this year, he's turning 32 in a few months and he has mediocre career numbers against the AL. i've already been called "stupid" for pointing out he has a lot of mileage and has been injury free, so that doesn't bear well for the future. he has a 5.93 era after 2 starts and has already been scratched with a groin issue. it would not surprise me at all if he spends the next couple years on/off the DL with an era around 4.40 or so. but then again, what do i know.

williams has a .310 avg/.366 obp/.876 ops on the year with 16 homers and 11 steals. and this is his "low ceiling." he's by far one of the phils best offensive prospects in years.

thompson is 2-0 with a 1.29 era after 2 starts. asher is 1-0 with a 2.77 era after 2. eickhoff is 2-0 with a 0.64 era after 2. and of course, alfaro will be back next year. 5 players, all young and under control, for one aging pitcher who could blow at any minute.

i don't count diekman, because he's a piece of shit. the rangers had a 2-0 lead heading into the 8th tonight and he gave up 2 runs after walking the leadoff man (a .242 hitter batting 9th.) shocker. really should have been 3 runs and the loss. sano just missed a bomb by inches and it wound up being a double.

i caught this article on the rangers forum. they didn't agree with it at all and thought it was way too negative.. but i actually thought it was pretty spot on..

Cowlishaw: Buyer beware! Desperate Rangers risking it all for Cole Hamels | Dallas Morning News

 

[Omar 382]

Wait, people actually read shit that Tim Cowlishaw writes?

But yeah, I agree. This is shaping up to be a great deal. I just wish Eaglesnut was still around so we could hear how the Rangers "stole" an ace from us for a bunch of "nothing" prospects

 

[_phiLLies_]

i love cole. he will always be one of my favorite players (along with chase.) but put him in the AL, he's not an ace. the phils did a superb job waiting for that one team to panic and crack. i'm still not sure what eaglesnut was bitchin' about.

 

[Cedrique]

I wouldn't say they fleeced them, but they did the right thing by ponying up a bunch of money to get a good haul. Williams has made following the Reading Phillies exciting

 

[jvett77]

If the guys we got work out well over the next 1 to 2 years, regardless of Hamels' future performance, we obviously have to give the front office the credit they deserve. Time will tell.

 

[_phiLLies_]

eickhoff

 

[Omar 382]

Beginner's luck

 

[jvett77]

Plus the Marlins are as bad as the Phillies but still a great performance. He'll have a real test vs. Colon and the Mets at the end of August.

 

[eaglesnut]

So it's settled then? LOL. If we didn't get a bunch of studs then it wasn't worth trading Cole. It was the only way to re-stock because of all the other failed trades so it has no room for error. We'll see what they turn into. Apparently Williams has been hot.

 

[Cedrique]

The Rangers are back in the Wild Card lead so maybe it will work out for them too. Hamels hasn't been that great since he's been there but he could be useful in the playoffs.

 

[_phiLLies_]

alfaro is back and playing, on rehab in the gulf coast league. 1-3 in 2 games so far.

thompson has been dominant at reading with a 3-1, 1.97 era mark.

williams is hitting .326/.347 obp/.902 ops at reading.

asher is 2-0 with a 2.08 era at lehigh.

eickhoff is 1-1 with a 2.25 era for the phils.

hamels is 1-1 with a 4.73 era for the rangers. and diekman has a 2.08 era, which we all know won't last.

 

[Omar 382]

alfaro is back and playing, on rehab in the gulf coast league. 1-3 in 2 games so far.

thompson has been dominant at reading with a 3-1, 1.97 era mark.

williams is hitting .326/.347 obp/.902 ops at reading.

asher is 2-0 with a 2.08 era at lehigh.

eickhoff is 1-1 with a 2.25 era for the phils.

hamels is 1-1 with a 4.73 era for the rangers. and diekman has a 2.08 era, which we all know won't last.

Hamels has a 4.85 FIP and an 89 ERA+ with the Rangers. He's been pretty damn bad (which is kind of to be expected when you look at his numbers against the AL)

 

[WestCoastPhan]

And since we got Alfaro and Knapp hitting close to .400, have you noticed Rupp all of a sudden started to hit. If this keeps up, one of these guys will need to play outfield or 1B.