OT: Shooting in Oregon Mall

[whyoh]

No, you have to register ANY vehicle. He may get away with it if he only uses it on his property. But ALL vehicles have to be titled, registered, and tagged (exceptions for things like motorbikes, golf carts, tractors, etc.),

you're just wrong on this

 

[elocomotive]

I think once someone makes the decision, any deterrent is irrelevant. Their mind is made up and they are pretty sure they are going to die.

The only way to make any headway is to stop it before it gets to attack planning stage. That's something I feel like we can apply to any situation.

True 'nuff.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

There are federal laws restricting certain gun usage, but most gun laws on the sale, prohibition of weapons, conceal/carry laws, etc. are at the state level.

True and this is problematic. My brother in law that moved from NY to S. Carolina was telling me. "It's a lot easier to get a gun down here than in NY". The laws should be more consistent from state to state. Maybe it should be more of a federal issue but I don't see that happening.

 

[elocomotive]

you're just wrong on this

Ok. I don't think it's really the point anyway.

 

[whyoh]

the problem with the entire discussion is that side a believes that side b is a bunch of ignorant rednecks that know nothing about the real world and side b thinks that side a is a bunch of elitist snobs that know nothing about the real world

if everybody involved thinks they are talking to someone with the mental capacity of a toddler the discussion will never go anywhere

 

[whyoh]

I think once someone makes the decision, any deterrent is irrelevant. Their mind is made up and they are pretty sure they are going to die.

The only way to make any headway is to stop it before it gets to attack planning stage. That's something I feel like we can apply to any situation.

True 'nuff.

^^these^^

 

[abaskin18]

When the letter of the law in the Constitution supports your position it's not open to interpretation. If the letter of the law in the Constitution is at odds with your position then it is important to interpret what the founders meant so that it supports your position.

Con Law 101 from the University of Dumbfuckistan

 

[whyoh]

Ok. I don't think it's really the point anyway.

i'll concede that....i guess i was just playing devils advocate about the car thing


i don't mind the idea of licensing someone to own firearms....but i am vehemently against registering them with the gov't individually

 

[dash]

I keep hoping the west coast of America will join Canada - Or BC joins Washington state and Oregon to form Cascadia.

 

[abaskin18]

the problem with the entire discussion is that side a believes that side b is a bunch of ignorant rednecks that know nothing about the real world and side b thinks that side a is a bunch of elitist snobs that know nothing about the real world

if everybody involved thinks they are talking to someone with the mental capacity of a toddler the discussion will never go anywhere

Close, but I think Side A is more selfish than ignorant or crimson colored in the neck region.

 

[whyoh]

the problem with the entire discussion is that side a believes that side b is a bunch of ignorant rednecks that know nothing about the real world and side b thinks that side a is a bunch of elitist snobs that know nothing about the real world

if everybody involved thinks they are talking to someone with the mental capacity of a toddler the discussion will never go anywhere

When the letter of the law in the Constitution supports your position it's not open to interpretation. If the letter of the law in the Constitution is at odds with your position then it is important to interpret what the founders meant so that it supports your position.

Con Law 101 from the University of Dumbfuckistan

point proven.....y'all have a nice day

 

[abaskin18]

point proven.....y'all have a nice day

Like I said, you're close.

 

[forty_three]

When the letter of the law in the Constitution supports your position it's not open to interpretation. If the letter of the law in the Constitution is at odds with your position then it is important to interpret what the founders meant so that it supports your position.

Con Law 101 from the University of Dumbfuckistan

Can you change that map to include a little blue dot in Central Ohio?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I keep hoping the west coast of America will join Canada - Or BC joins Washington state and Oregon to form Cascadia.

as long as they make it more difficult than a 20 minute wait to buy an AR15 in Washington State

 

[abaskin18]

Can you change that map to include a little blue dot in Central Ohio?

It's there, you just have to squint...it's like finding Waldo.

 

[elocomotive]

the problem with the entire discussion is that side a believes that side b is a bunch of ignorant rednecks that know nothing about the real world and side b thinks that side a is a bunch of elitist snobs that know nothing about the real world

if everybody involved thinks they are talking to someone with the mental capacity of a toddler the discussion will never go anywhere

Why are you bringing something into this discussion that isn't relevant?

 

[whyoh]

Close, but I think Side A is more selfish than ignorant or crimson colored in the neck region.

you mean side b?

 

[abaskin18]

you mean side b?

I think people whose priority in the gun debate is keeping their toys is selfish. Side B is certainly supercilious.

 

[elocomotive]

i'll concede that....i guess i was just playing devils advocate about the car thing


i don't mind the idea of licensing someone to own firearms....but i am vehemently against registering them with the gov't individually

I understand your point in the sense that legal application to public and private behavior are different. But since a gun can always be brought into public use and/or is made for the purpose of killing things (unlike a car which has many practical purposes), the regulation would be different anyway. And yet we have LESS regulation of guns.

 

[dash]

as long as they make it more difficult than a 20 minute wait to buy an AR15 in Washington State

yes, good point.