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OT: Serena Williams commercial - Sexiest Tennis Player?!

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Excuse me while I go throw up. Some people just have to accept the fact they aren't sexy, no matter how good they are at a sport or how much the media tries to make them look good.

I mean...I agree that she probably shouldn't be wearing what she wore right there. It was a bit...much.
 

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To those of you with daughters, always remind them how beautiful they are. They may get embarrassed, but trust me...we love to hear it.

Word.

Instilling a positive body image in them and encouraging them to have self-esteem is gonna keep your baby girl off the pole.
 

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Yeah, Hollywood kills me. I feel bad for some of them though. If a female star goes out in public (especially the beach season) with even a little extra something on her body, they're torched. I can't even imagine that. I've been taunted in my life, but in a publication or magazine? You have to have skin of steel. Another example is Jennifer Hudson. That girl was gorgeous even before she lost weight, but felt pressured it would seem to lose weight to gain popularity...now I think she's equally gorgeous. She just looks like a new person.

EDIT: and 5'8 130lbs is actually realllllly skinny. That's my height, and if I weighed that much, there'd be nothing left of me. I guess I just am apt to being slightly jealous of girls that are just naturally skinny, because although I believe beauty comes in all shapes and sizes, self-esteem isn't big on me. Girls are just very mean in middle/high school :rolleyes: To those of you with daughters, always remind them how beautiful they are. They may get embarrassed, but trust me...we love to hear it.

When I was in high school (17) I was 6'3" and 205lb. I had less than 7% body fat. According to my doctor's chart, I was "obese" because my "ideal" was 165 and I was more than 30 over that.

That was when I stopped giving a shit about their charts. Yeah, I could stand to slim down a bit, but Mrs 43 still likes me. I'm comfortable with myself. So...

I guess I am kind of lucky because I have that "don't really give a shit" gene.
 

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Excuse me while I go throw up. Some people just have to accept the fact they aren't sexy, no matter how good they are at a sport or how much the media tries to make them look good.

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Who say what?
 

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Ahhh this is so wrong! Bad Abercrombie and Fitch! BAD!

Abercrombie & Fitch's summer line features padded bikini tops for little girls.

Ready or not, swimsuit season is here, and clothing stores across America are filling their racks with stringy bikinis, feeding women's insecurities and reminding us all that we should go to the gym before summer hits.

This year's crop of swimsuits includes an interesting offering for young girls: padded bikini tops.

Yes, Abercrombie Kids seems to think your 8-year-old's chest is too flat.

The popular fashion brand's new spring kids' line includes three bikini top styles, including the Ashley Push Up Triangle, that are all stuffed with padding.

Abercrombie Kids is an offshoot of Abercrombie & Fitch, the popular fashion brand aimed at teenagers. The kids line is geared at kids ages 8 to 14.

While a 14-year-old might be ready to try a padded bikini, it's hard to imagine that an 8-year-old's cleavage needs enhancing. What sort of message are you sending a 2nd grader when you buy her a push-up top?

Moms are voicing their outrage on the Internet and questioning whether these tops will lead little girls to feel inadequate. Over at Babble mom blogger Rebecca Odes writes: "...the use of the word "push up" is unbelievably inappropriate. The push up bra is, effectively, a sex tool, designed to push the breasts up and out, putting them front and center where they're more accessible to the eye (and everything else). How is this okay for a second-grader?

I stopped by the Abercrombie Kids store at San Francisco's Westfield Mall yesterday to see if people are overreacting. The padding, especially in the push-up style, is generous. In fact, it's equal in thickness to the Victoria's Secret push-up bra I was wearing that day.

This isn't the first uproar over kids' padded bikinis. Last year, the British clothing chain Primark pulled a line of padded bikinis aimed at girls as young as 7 after criticism from advocacy groups protesting the sexualization of children.

Read more: Abercrombie & Fitch selling padded bikini tops for young girls : The Mommy Files


Abercrombie & Fitch selling padded bikini tops for young girls : The Mommy Files
 

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Really? I wouldn't say no to Danica or Serena.

I think Killer Vee and P66 are right - beauty comes in all shapes and sizes.

It does. And it also comes from inside. Physically, both are borderline, IMO. Listening to interviews with them, they are both far too full of themselves to make up the difference.
 

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Word.

Instilling a positive body image in them and encouraging them to have self-esteem is gonna keep your baby girl off the pole.

It probably isn't my place to speak on this subject but I'm gonna give it a try anyways. My thought is that perhaps the issue lies with how women value themselves. Women are each other's worst critics and possibly their own worst enemy. I don't think any one person can change an entire culture but I know where it starts. Men and women are the same in the sense that each one desires the best attributes that the other has to offer, but I feel that women have a much more diverse selection of attributes to choose from because men value themselves on more than just looks. Before you argue really think about it.
 

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It probably isn't my place to speak on this subject but I'm gonna give it a try anyways. My thought is that perhaps the issue lies with how women value themselves. Women are each other's worst critics and possibly their own worst enemy. I don't think any one person can change an entire culture but I know where it starts. Men and women are the same in the sense that each one desires the best attributes that the other has to offer, but I feel that women have a much more diverse selection of attributes to choose from because men value themselves on more than just looks. Before you argue really think about it.

Oh, trust me, girls are worse than the guys. Very few guys are big enough douche bags to say horrible things about a girl in hearing range (like telling some girl she's fat...and if a guy is a big enough jerk to say that, his opinion isn't worth while), but girls? Oh, they will say it. They will look at everything. Your eyebrows are too thick, your hips are too wide, your boobs are too small. As a gender, girls are worse. However, for most girls, the opinion of men probably holds more water. The funny thing is, from a scientific standpoint men tend to look at the big picture while women look at the little things (like makeup and eyebrows and noses or whatever), so most of the little stuff women do (hair anyone?) doesn't really matter to guys from an aesthetic standpoint.
 

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Another Youtube video posted on here that I just won't watch. What is wrong with you people??? ;)
 

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Oh, trust me, girls are worse than the guys. Very few guys are big enough douche bags to say horrible things about a girl in hearing range (like telling some girl she's fat...and if a guy is a big enough jerk to say that, his opinion isn't worth while), but girls? Oh, they will say it. They will look at everything. Your eyebrows are too thick, your hips are too wide, your boobs are too small. As a gender, girls are worse. However, for most girls, the opinion of men probably holds more water. The funny thing is, from a scientific standpoint men tend to look at the big picture while women look at the little things (like makeup and eyebrows and noses or whatever), so most of the little stuff women do (hair anyone?) doesn't really matter to guys from an aesthetic standpoint.

All of that is true, which is why substance is so important. Like I said I know that one person can't change an entire culture and our culture is driven towards beauty as being the determination of a woman's value and I don't mean that to be cruel that's just the perception I have from what I've seen. Without discussing myself too much, I've been with a pretty representable cross-section of women and the only one's I really cared to stay with were the one's that had more to offer than just their looks. I'm not saying looks aren't important but I find that I'm more content with a woman who is healthy because a lot of factors regarding self esteem and drive go hand in hand with that more often than not, to me that has nothing to do with looks but it has everything to do with beauty and to me there's a difference.
 
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