OT - I'm bored, Part Pangos & Bell!

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Tony Clark, head of the players' union, issued the following statement Friday afternoon and it has some bite to it:

"As a veteran of fifteen MLB seasons, I can assure you that our sport is infinitely more complex than some in the media would have you believe. To suggest otherwise is ignorant, and to make an ignorant point by denigrating the intelligence of our Dominican members was not “clunky” -- it was offensive.

"These recent comments are particularly disappointing when viewed against the backdrop of the important work being done to celebrate and improve the cultural diversity of our game. Baseball's partners and stakeholders should help such efforts, not undermine them."

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

ESPN pulled him off, although this obviously falls more on Fox since they're still negotiating his deal.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Cole Hamels has a no-hitter through eight innings

 

[Cobiemonster]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!! No-hitter!!!

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!! No-hitter!!!

At least one positive came out of this season for the Phils.

 

[Cobiemonster]

 

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Your move, AA

 

[puckhead]

Blue Jays' Awful Baserunning Turns Grounder Into Triple Play

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Your move, AA

"We were in on a lot of conversations but we didn't find any good fits." -AA, July 31, 2012-2015.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

There was some pretty shit baserunning in Seattle this weekend in addition to whatever the fuck happened on that TP.

Drew Hutchison needs to be sent down. Enough is enough. Get rid of him and trade for two starters because that is the only fucking way they are making the playoffs. Hell, even Dickey has been pretty solid since the beginning of June.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I was hoping for a sweep from my shitty mariners for all those western cdns who travelled down to watch "canada's team"

 

[Darkstone42]

So Tulo and Hawkins are Blue Jays now, and Reyes is with the Rockies.

Why?

 

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So Tulo and Hawkins are Blue Jays now, and Reyes is with the Rockies.

Why?

Man oh man, just getting rid of Reyes is addition by subtraction, nice trade by AA

 

[Darkstone42]

Man oh man, just getting rid of Reyes is addition by subtraction, nice trade by AA

Reyes is, all-around, average to a bit above as a shortstop, even this year in a down year. As recently as last season, he was quite good. Given that shortstops have never posted even league average hitting in the entirety of MLB's history, a hitter with a wRC+ of ~100 (Reyes sits at 95 right now and is projected for 101 for the rest of the season), who is at worst an average defensive shortstop and a definite plus baserunner is a very valuable player.

Obviously, Tulo's the best in the league, so it's an upgrade, but Tulo's got injury history, is in a down year, and has never performed at nearly the level offensively on the road as he did at Coors, so I'm not sure it's as big an upgrade as the cost in both dollars and prospects they had to pay.

 

[pixburgher66]

Still don't understand the move. Improving on a strength...still no pitchers. Of course that can be easily rectified, but they just traded one first rounder, willing to move another to get an arm (or about three)?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Reyes is, all-around, average to a bit above as a shortstop, even this year in a down year. As recently as last season, he was quite good. Given that shortstops have never posted even league average hitting in the entirety of MLB's history, a hitter with a wRC+ of ~100 (Reyes sits at 95 right now and is projected for 101 for the rest of the season), who is at worst an average defensive shortstop and a definite plus baserunner is a very valuable player.

Obviously, Tulo's the best in the league, so it's an upgrade, but Tulo's got injury history, is in a down year, and has never performed at nearly the level offensively on the road as he did at Coors, so I'm not sure it's as big an upgrade as the cost in both dollars and prospects they had to pay.

Reyes is hot fucking garbage. He can't make routine throws to first. He can't hit for average, can't hit from the right side, can't get on base, has no power whatsoever, gets hurt every two months...

Tulo smokes him in every metric including wRC+ which is skewed to hell already by playing at Coors. I don't get the "not so good on the road" argument - he has a .343 OBP away which is good for second among SS. This gives the Jays one of the best lineups in recent baseball history and a deadly as fuck left side of the infield with Tulo and Dosh.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Still don't understand the move. Improving on a strength...still no pitchers. Of course that can be easily rectified, but they just traded one first rounder, willing to move another to get an arm (or about three)?

Liked Hoffman, but they moved him for a SS with term and considerable skill. There was lots of talk earlier in the week the Jays were in on Carrasco and more talk about Ross and Cashner. All 3 have term so if it takes moving Norris or Pompey or Urena or whatever, it's still worth it.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

That seems like quite the haul, but I can't blame Cleveland for not doing a Billy Beane and trading a good player with control left for prospects.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Reyes is hot fucking garbage. He can't make routine throws to first. He can't hit for average, can't hit from the right side, can't get on base, has no power whatsoever, gets hurt every two months...

Tulo smokes him in every metric including wRC+ which is skewed to hell already by playing at Coors. I don't get the "not so good on the road" argument - he has a .343 OBP away which is good for second among SS. This gives the Jays one of the best lineups in recent baseball history and a deadly as fuck left side of the infield with Tulo and Dosh.

I agree with all this

If people are going to use the injury thing with Tulo then the same applies with Jose Reyes, he hasn't stayed healthy either in previous years - Tulo is a rare breed at his position, his defense is equal to Jose Reyes and the power and overall hitting ability is such that it makes the Jays lineup real, real dangerous - gives their lineup a lot more options

Now, they do need to get a starting pitcher and I'm sure there are guys available even at a lower price that would give them an upgrade, but the lineup is so deadly right now - yes, pitching is a necessity but there aren't very many top of the line hitters available and the Jays got one - so many pitchers are available so they can find one easily