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Giants are only doing this to force the Dodgers hand - nothing more, nothing less - Giants don't have squat to offer to the Phillies
 

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I agree with all this

If people are going to use the injury thing with Tulo then the same applies with Jose Reyes, he hasn't stayed healthy either in previous years - Tulo is a rare breed at his position, his defense is equal to Jose Reyes and the power and overall hitting ability is such that it makes the Jays lineup real, real dangerous - gives their lineup a lot more options

Now, they do need to get a starting pitcher and I'm sure there are guys available even at a lower price that would give them an upgrade, but the lineup is so deadly right now - yes, pitching is a necessity but there aren't very many top of the line hitters available and the Jays got one - so many pitchers are available so they can find one easily
His defense puts Reyes out to pasture. Reyes became so godawful at SS the past two years that you would wipe sweat from your brow when he makes a routine out.
 

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It's like he turned into the SS version of Chuck Knoblauch :D
Exactly. I can accept Travis making mistakes at second because he's a rookie and I'm excited as hell about him, but for $20 mil you need to be getting better from short. Tulo gives them that.

If they can get a starter without giving up Alford or Norris I'll be jumping for joy.
 

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It's like he turned into the SS version of Chuck Knoblauch :D
Or Pedro Alvarez. His throwing at third base became so bad he was moved to first. Then as a first baseman his catching became abysmal as well.
 

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Report: Troy Tulowitzki Had No Idea He Was Being Traded

kind of a deer in the headlights look



If you don’t believe that Tulo had no idea the trade was going down, take a look at his face after he was suddenly yanked from the game in the ninth inning last night:
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Does anyone know if a player that serves a suspension for PEDs is ineligible all together for the playoffs or just for the team they were suspended with? In other words, Jenry Mejia got popped earlier this season and therefore can't play if the Mets make it. If they trade him, is he playoff eligible for his new team?
 

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Does anyone know if a player that serves a suspension for PEDs is ineligible all together for the playoffs or just for the team they were suspended with? In other words, Jenry Mejia got popped earlier this season and therefore can't play if the Mets make it. If they trade him, is he playoff eligible for his new team?

I would think the suspension would be upheld regardless of the team he plays for (i.e. league wide suspension)

/Not 100% sure on that one, though.
 

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Liked Hoffman, but they moved him for a SS with term and considerable skill. There was lots of talk earlier in the week the Jays were in on Carrasco and more talk about Ross and Cashner. All 3 have term so if it takes moving Norris or Pompey or Urena or whatever, it's still worth it.
The positives being that these aren't rentals. Just have to be a bit careful because the team is getting older. Seems like most of the pillars there (other than Pillar) are early 30s. But they need controllable arms. *sigh* lucky freaking other divisions where being .500 means you're still close to the division lead.
 

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The positives being that these aren't rentals. Just have to be a bit careful because the team is getting older. Seems like most of the pillars there (other than Pillar) are early 30s. But they need controllable arms. *sigh* lucky freaking other divisions where being .500 means you're still close to the division lead.
Edwin and Bautista are likely gone after next season, the rotation is going to have Stroman and Sanchez in it at some point regardless as well as Norris if he isn't moved. Buehrle is probably retiring after the season. That's a lot of age coming off the roster within 16 months.
 

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Edwin and Bautista are likely gone after next season, the rotation is going to have Stroman and Sanchez in it at some point regardless as well as Norris if he isn't moved. Buehrle is probably retiring after the season. That's a lot of age coming off the roster within 16 months.

And there will be lots of top end FA starters this offseason - the Jays can't do everything now, they're trying to get really talented assets right now, even if it's not a need so that it gives them more flexibility in the offseason
 

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Does anyone know if a player that serves a suspension for PEDs is ineligible all together for the playoffs or just for the team they were suspended with? In other words, Jenry Mejia got popped earlier this season and therefore can't play if the Mets make it. If they trade him, is he playoff eligible for his new team?

I know I probably sound like an idiot and have brain freeze right now but I didn't realize that a player who got suspended for PED's in the season isn't eligible for the playoffs
 
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Zobrist to the Royals for LHP Sean Manea (a very highly regarded prospect, BA gave him a 55 future value rating, and Kiley McDaniel ranged him the 37th best prospect in baseball) and RHP Aaron Brooks (less regarded).

That's a heck of a price to pay for a rental.
 

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Zobrist to the Royals for LHP Sean Manea (a very highly regarded prospect, BA gave him a 55 future value rating, and Kiley McDaniel ranged him the 37th best prospect in baseball) and RHP Aaron Brooks (less regarded).

That's a heck of a price to pay for a rental.

Glad the Mets weren't the ones to pay that price.
 

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Zobrist to the Royals for LHP Sean Manea (a very highly regarded prospect, BA gave him a 55 future value rating, and Kiley McDaniel ranged him the 37th best prospect in baseball) and RHP Aaron Brooks (less regarded).

That's a heck of a price to pay for a rental.
Well, never underestimate the Beane machine. Building up quite the stable of youngsters once again.
 

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Royals going all out...and the A's taking advantage. A nice change of role there. Really though, way too much for a rental. He was a player I really wanted the Pirates to get (mostly pre-ARam), but at that price tag? Hah, no. Go get a pitcher.
 
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