Oilers plan to keep No. 1 pick - maybe not?

[filosofy29]

I think that's part of the problem that most Canadian cities have. A lot of players hate to be under the microscope 24/7/365 and that's the reality in all of the Canadian markets. Why did Paul Kariya chose places like Anaheim and St. Louis over Vancouver? I'm pretty sure he liked the anonymity factor in those cities.

I think I would pick a team (under two large assumptions: 1. I was good enough at hockey to make the NHL..... and 2. I was a Free Agent) based on these criteria:

1.) Location - I'd want to play in a nice city where I could realistically settle down later. Of the places I would play under the assumptions above, would be San Jose, Colorado, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Vancouver, Chicago and Boston. I'm more of a West Coast guy, but in my short trips to Chicago and Boston, I've liked those cities.....even though I'd probably want to kill half of "Red Sox Nation", lol.

2.) Best Chance to Win - of the teams listed above, which team has the best chance to win it all.

3.) How I fit/Who's interested.

Rabid fanbase would/could be good and bad I suppose, but it would be pretty far down on my list (then again I've never had people stalk me or stop me on the street and want to talk to me).

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I do have a bit of a problem with those assholes using Team Canada as a chance to scout prospects.
There wasn't a better option available on defense than Ryan Murray?

EXACTLY!!

I've been meaning to post on this subject before now.

Even if you want to give a junior player a taste with the big boys, why is it a draft eligible player?

Ryan Murphy and Dougie Hamilton are just two who have earned their stripes more than Murray.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

I think I would pick a team (under two large assumptions: 1. I was good enough at hockey to make the NHL..... and 2. I was a Free Agent) based on these criteria:

1.) Location - I'd want to play in a nice city where I could realistically settle down later. Of the places I would play under the assumptions above, would be San Jose, Colorado, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Vancouver, Chicago and Boston. I'm more of a West Coast guy, but in my short trips to Chicago and Boston, I've liked those cities.....even though I'd probably want to kill half of "Red Sox Nation", lol.

2.) Best Chance to Win - of the teams listed above, which team has the best chance to win it all.

3.) How I fit/Who's interested.

Rabid fanbase would/could be good and bad I suppose, but it would be pretty far down on my list (then again I've never had people stalk me or stop me on the street and want to talk to me).

I would need a big market. I don't know if I could play for a team like Edmonton after growing up 15 mins from NYC. As a result of growing up where I did, media attention wouldn't be a factor. Then again, somebody that grows up on a farm may not adjust as well to the big market so to each their own.

 

[esls79]

Under my criteria, I would want to play in Florida - no state income taxes.

If I couldn't play in Florida, I'd go for Anaheim, LA, NY, and Minnesota in that order. Last on my list is Dallas.

 

[puckhead]

EXACTLY!!

I've been meaning to post on this subject before now.

Even if you want to give a junior player a taste with the big boys, why is it a draft eligible player?

Ryan Murphy and Dougie Hamilton are just two who have earned their stripes more than Murray.

or, say ANYONE in the NHL.
the only way I could see having a draft eligible player in the Worlds is if it's a player that's expected to play a role in an upcoming Olympics, and they want that player to get a feel for playing internationally or on the bigger ice.
That does not describe Ryan Murray in the slightest. This is just for Lowe to get an extra close look at him ahead of the draft.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

or, say ANYONE in the NHL.
the only way I could see having a draft eligible player in the Worlds is if it's a player that's expected to play a role in an upcoming Olympics, and they want that player to get a feel for playing internationally or on the bigger ice.
That does not describe Ryan Murray in the slightest. This is just for Lowe to get an extra close look at him ahead of the draft.

I agree with all that.

I don't mind a junior player getting a taste. It's kind of cool, IMO. But Murray is not the guy who would have deserved it most.

The only rationale for him being there is so that the Oilers can evaluate him.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I do have a bit of a problem with those assholes using Team Canada as a chance to scout prospects.
There wasn't a better option available on defense than Ryan Murray?

I agree. I can tell you Hamonic was asked, but said no due to a personal issue.

If Edmonton keeps the pick do they take Yakupov or Murray?

 

[dash]

I agree. I can tell you Hamonic was asked, but said no due to a personal issue.

If Edmonton keeps the pick do they take Yakupov or Murray?

Pretty sure they would select Yakupov, I mean he seems to be head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Pretty sure they would select Yakupov, I mean he seems to be head and shoulders above the rest.

Which just seems weird to me considering the talent they have up front. Is it possible they take him and ship out one of the other young guys? At some point you have to sign all of these guys.

 

[dash]

Which just seems weird to me considering the talent they have up front. Is it possible they take him and ship out one of the other young guys? At some point you have to sign all of these guys.

Maybe they take him and evaluate the situation in a year's time before making a decision on which young guy to move? Eberle just keeps getting better and the Nuge is a young centreman, so that probably puts Taylor Hall in the crosshairs.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Bob Stauffer ‏ @Bob_Stauffer
According to Team Canada GM Kevin Lowe consensus amongst Managers and Scouts at WHC is Ryan Murray will play in NHL next season

using the media again today to "defend" their choice

 

[dash]

There are some rumours out there that adding Ryan Murray to the team was done as a favour by Lowe to Scott Howson. I say balderdash.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

lol

If EDM draft Ryan Murray 1st overall, I'm going to safely assume Lowe & Tambo bought their current houses at the list price from the seller.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Bob Stauffer ‏ @Bob_Stauffer
According to Team Canada GM Kevin Lowe consensus amongst Managers and Scouts at WHC is Ryan Murray will play in NHL next season

using the media again today to "defend" their choice

How much of this is a ploy to get offers from other teams? The draft is 6 weeks away. The combine hasn't taken place yet. It seems a bit early to be proclaiming what you're going to do with the 1st pick.

 

[puckhead]

How much of this is a ploy to get offers from other teams? The draft is 6 weeks away. The combine hasn't taken place yet. It seems a bit early to be proclaiming what you're going to do with the 1st pick.

I think the reason they brought Murray over was for Lowe get a good hard look at him to see if they can trade away the #1 pick for a few spots over. Murray would not be top 3 on my list. Not sure if he'd make top 5.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I think the reason they brought Murray over was for Lowe get a good hard look at him to see if they can trade away the #1 pick for a few spots over. Murray would not be top 3 on my list. Not sure if he'd make top 5.

If Edmonton trades down to 5 they won't get Murray. Why would Columbus or Montreal trade up? Columbus has to be afraid to take Yakupov with the Filatov & Zherdev fiascos. If Edmonton wants Murray they won't want Columbus to take him at #1. If Columbus wants Forsberg they can stay at 2 & take him. Montreal can sit back & take Galchenyuk or Grigorenko at 3.

Toronto is a logical trade partner for Edmonton. The problem for Edmonton is do they take a chance that Murray will be available at 5? I think it's too risky. If they want him they should just take him.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

#Oilers hockey boss Kevin Lowe on draft prospect Ryan Murray: "He's the best player."

 

[jstewismybastardson]

”There’s no surprise why Central Scouting has him rated second. He’s the top player. And often with the top players, or occasionally with the top players, they’re not ready to play in the National Hockey league, but I don’t question his readiness for next year.”

Lowe, who is running Team Canada in Finland, praised Murray for the way the 17-year-old has handled practicing and playing on Canada’s big team. Murray came as an extra body for practice, but has filled in a few times because of injury.

“He’s played remarkably well for a young fellow and I’ve talked to the other GMs and scouts that are here and they all agree that he’s going to play in the National Hockey League next year, no question. He’s held his own”

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

”There’s no surprise why Central Scouting has him rated second. He’s the top player. And often with the top players, or occasionally with the top players, they’re not ready to play in the National Hockey league, but I don’t question his readiness for next year.”

Lowe, who is running Team Canada in Finland, praised Murray for the way the 17-year-old has handled practicing and playing on Canada’s big team. Murray came as an extra body for practice, but has filled in a few times because of injury.

“He’s played remarkably well for a young fellow and I’ve talked to the other GMs and scouts that are here and they all agree that he’s going to play in the National Hockey League next year, no question. He’s held his own”

LOL!!

I hope they take Murray #1. It would open up all kinds of possibilities for everyone else.

 

[puckhead]

LOL!!

I hope they take Murray #1. It would open up all kinds of possibilities for everyone else.

sure sounds like he's trying to talk himself into it, doesn't it?