Official Mariners arm-chair GM offseason thread 2018-2019

[ulmax]

and they need a R/R cf .....cuz gamel and span are L/L....all the minors guys i metioned are L/L

mcCucthen, jones,and pollack are R/R..pollack is the only guy playing CF for the club they are playing on now
the other two play RF

 

[seahawksfan234]

That is the quandary they are in though. Cano back to 2B makes the most sense, but putting Gordon back in CF does nothing to help. If they don't resign Cruz, regardless the offense is going to take a step back (scary I know) This offseason is going to be the most cruel for us, there literally is nothing that can improve the team. They won't spend money on or have the prospects to get an ace so essentially the only thing we can look forward to is a veteran catcher and the next Romine. Dipoto and fans can blame Jack Z all they want but Dipoto traded every chip they had to get them back to where they were that got Jack fired.

Jerry won't replace Servais, they can keep bringing in voodoo doctors from the Natural all they want but unless they can get Zunino to get .230, turn Seager back into a MLB player again and turn Felix into a top end pitcher they are screwed there is nothing. Gordon is who he is, Healy is who he is and no matter what they do at DH it will be a massive downgrade from Cruz. Their window closed this year and they pulled a Pat Gillick and didn't go for it all but didn't sell either which is so terrible now. Had we known what we do now the Mariners had the best players available out of any team outside of Machado over Segura to make a killing on the trade deadline. Had they dealt Paxton, Diaz, Colome, Cruz and Segura they could've stock piled prospects that would have taken them from last to one of the top farm systems in baseball in one deadline.

It just sucks for baseball fans as ownership spend so much energy recently in politics over their product and we suffer as opposed to the other pro franchises in the town who have actually cared about their product regardless of how difficult the decisions have been and have all succeeded.

Don't think I could've said it better myself.

This is exactly how I feel regarding the state of the franchise. We really have nothing to look forward to. At best we are a wild card contender next year with a core of overpaid older players and no farm system.

I think it was back in 2010 that I posted a thread on CBS where I asked if the Mariners would make the playoffs in the next 10 years, obviously I have my answer.

 

[ulmax]

Don't think I could've said it better myself.

This is exactly how I feel regarding the state of the franchise. We really have nothing to look forward to. At best we are a wild card contender next year with a core of overpaid older players and no farm system.

I think it was back in 2010 that I posted a thread on CBS where I asked if the Mariners would make the playoffs in the next 10 years, obviously I have my answer.

while i could agree..and prob will..

if it goes the other way..where they get a starting pitcher....and then win..even with gordan in cf...and a AAA CF off waivers

then we would be eating pigeon..or crow

but yeah..that seems to be where they are a chance at the wild card next year
then a few free agents after felix...then a chance again the next year
all the while stacking draft picks...that does seem to be the way it is right now

 

[ulmax]

but they are not in last place with no chance..yet
so at least every year we git to root for them till after june anyway......om..goodness....LOL

 

[ulmax]

unsaid so far is ..........bishop or lewis could be up the 2nd year...filling the R/R cf role

even if it is a gamble..i would go for a starting pitcher

 

[ulmax]

2014
AL West.......W L PCT GB WCGB L10 STRK RS RA DIFF X-W/L HOME AWAY .500 Teams" style="box-sizing: bo
LA Angelsz... 98 64 .605 - - 3-7 L3 773 630 +143 96-66 52-29 46-35 41-43
Oaklandw.... 88 74 .543 10.0 - 5-5 W1 729 572 +157 99-63 48-33 40-41 44-40
Seattle ........87 75 .537 11.0 1.0 5-5 W4 634 554 +80 91-71 41-40 46-35 45-35


2015
AL West .....W L PCT GB WCGB L10 STRK RS RA DIFF X-W/L HOME AWAY .500 Teams" style="box-sizing: b

Texasy ........88 74 .543 - - 5-5 W1 751 733 +18 83-79 43-38 45-36 48-36
Houstonw.... 86 76 .531 2.0 - 6-4 L1 729 618 +111 93-69 53-28 33-48 42-43
LA Angels ....85 77 .525 3.0 1.0 7-3 L1 661 675 -14 79-83 49-32 36-45 38-48
Seattle ........76 86 .469 12.0 10.0 2-8 W1 656 726 -70 74-88 36-45 40-41 44-58
2016
Texasz.......... 95 67 .586 - - 5-5 L2 765 757 +8 82-80 53-28 42-39 60-31
Seattle ..........86 76 .531 9.0 3.0 6-4 L2 768 707 +61

 

[ulmax]

2017
houston 101-61
angels....80-82
seattle.....78-84

before 2014 they where always in the basement

 

[ulmax]

in 2013 houston comes from national league..they are basement seattle is next

2012 ,2011 and 2010=basement

they also had a wining record in 2009

85-77 but even if they had 2 wild cards back then...as they do today..they would have been 3rd after texas and detroit
for the 2nd spot..cuz boston had the 1st one

2008 was no chance basment
2007
they would have been tied with detroit for the 2nd one at 88-74...but it did not exist

2004 ,2005 and 2006 basement
2003 would have goten the 2nd one at 93-69..2 games back from boston


2002
oakland ...103 59 .636 - - 8-2 W4 800 654 +146 96-66 54-27 49-32 46-38
Anaheimw 99 63 .611 4.0 - 4-6 W2 851 644 +207 101-61 54-27 45-36 38-42
Seattle...... 93 69 .574 10.0 6.0 5-5 L2 814 699 +115 92-70 48-33 45-36 43-37

2001
seattle wins div
Seattley 116 46 .716 - - 8-2 L1 927 627 +300 109-53 57-24 59-22 48-23

 

[ulmax]

maybe a bit hard but

 

[ulmax]

tampa bay has the best young pitching staff in baseball...imo...they will prob go to world series soon

snell.................. LHP
tyler glassnow (from pitt) with austin meadows CF ..........for archer
jake faria
jalen beeks........they did not trade for him for nothing .LHP ....from boston for eavaldi
brent honeywell

if this is what we want for the mariners .and i think it is
we will have to wait for it

 

[ulmax]

in the mean time might as well try to go to the playoffs
and with felix and his contract in the last year...there is still a chance if felix is out of the pen/start..which really should be ramirez as well
and the next year...when the mariners ... have money to spend
but effectiveness should be taken into account..in spending that money..they do not have a good track record of that



with span ,gordan and heredia...im not all that worried about CF..and with lewis and bishop at AA

the two things i would be most worried about is a platoon for seager and a starting pitcher



and gordan can fill in a lot of positions as well 2b,ss,3b cf and next year can prob do even more
if you want to win regardless of injurys...then you need gordan plus another utility guy...that can hit

cano at 1B is a utility in a way that you dont have to have extra guys...or count on voggy

the mariners need a bit of tweeking but they do not need a lot

 

[ulmax]

while they need to draft starting pitching........for the next six years
i would still think about ..mike toglia 1b/ rf (ucla) if he was avaliable...but i would still prob go....... george kirby..rhp(elon).....lol

 

[ulmax]

dipoto sept 13 th


Jerry Dipoto ‘embarrassed’ by Mariners’ 2nd half, says tough decisions await in offseason


t’s not like we had to go out and play .700 ball to wind up in the postseason,” Dipoto said of the team’s second half. “We just needed to do some of the things we were doing and hold serve, and we didn’t do it. That’s on us. We should be embarrassed by it, and I am.



whatever it takes to fix this ...below...that is what needs to be done
so let it be written so let it be done


“… We have a group of players, frankly it’s close to half our lineup since the midpoint of the season who just stopped getting on base with any regularity. … We have had roughly half our lineup just effectively disappear for half a season, and it’s really hard to score runs when only half of your lineup is working. Understanding that you can’t put three or four hitters in a position where they have to churn night after night, and that’s what we’ve done – and sometimes it’s not even three or four.”

 

[wazzu31]

Don't think I could've said it better myself.

This is exactly how I feel regarding the state of the franchise. We really have nothing to look forward to. At best we are a wild card contender next year with a core of overpaid older players and no farm system.

I think it was back in 2010 that I posted a thread on CBS where I asked if the Mariners would make the playoffs in the next 10 years, obviously I have my answer.

Realistically it is actually impressive that they have had this drought. The A's have dumpster fired what 10 times since the last time they made it, the Astros weren't even pretending to care about winning and still missed on a few number 1 picks. The Angels have overspent on free agents that didn't do anything and the Rangers have been either contenders or massive failures. They should bring up the Mariners organization in college courses about statistical improbabilities.

 

[ulmax]

maybe i can get some help on this one but of the prospects that depoto has traded away
only

yarbough(tb) and o'niel (st louis)are at MLB...that i know of.....dj peterson(cinn) AAA is close

luiz gohara(ATL)AAA
18 MIS SOU ..............AA 0 1 2.70 1 1 0 0 0 0 3.1 5 5 1 0 0 3 0 4 .357 2.40 2.00
2018 GWN INT ........AAA 3 4 4.94 12 12 0 0 0 0 54.2 54 33 30 9 3 15 0 55 .263 1.26 0.93
2018 [-] 2 teams - Minors 3 5 4.81 13 13 0 0 0 0 58.0 59 38 31 9 3 18 0 59 .269 1.33 0.96


2018 ATL NL MLB .............0 1 5.95 9 1 0 0 1 1 19.2 16 13 13 3 0 8 0 18 .222 1.22 0.29



nick niedirt at miamis AA..will prob be at there AAA and /or mlb next year
Individual Stats (Pitching) (click column headers to sort)
Nick Neidert 12 7 3.24 26 26 0 0 0 152.2 142 63 55 17 4 31 154 1.13 0 0

 

[ulmax]

alex jackson (atl) at AA..turned to catcher
............................................................................................ba
2018 MIS SOU AA ..64 225 27 45 74 12 1 hr...5 24 20 2 78 0 0 .....200 .282 .329 .611 0.78
2018 GWN INT AAA 35 108 15 22 46 11 ........2 3 17 12 1 42 0 0 ...204 .296 .426 .722 0.39

for max povse and rob whalen...i think this was a good trade

Traded Pat Venditte to the Philadelphia Phillies. Received Joey Curletta (minors). this was agood trade

 

[ulmax]

this was an expensive trade..cuz both dugger and niedert..could make it to MLB next year

Traded Robert Dugger (minors), Nick Neidert (minors) and Christopher Torres (minors) to the Miami Marlins. Received Dee Gordon and international bonus slot money.

good trade
traded international bonus slot money to the Cleveland Indians. Received Shawn Armstrong.

good off waivers
Selected Chasen Bradford off waivers from the New York Mets.

this trade seems to be worth it to me
Traded Tommy Romero (minors) and Andrew Moore to the Tampa Bay Rays. Received Alex Colome, Denard Span and cash.

bad to me

aded Ryan Costello (minors) and Chase De Jong to the Minnesota Twins. Received Zach Duke and cash
also bad
Traded Bryson Brigman (minors) and international bonus slot money to the Miami Marlins. Received Cameron Maybin.

 

[ulmax]

but .......if i have to i would trade gordan and ramirez for.... scott kingery (phili's) and tyler gilbert and luke leftwitch
and bailey falter

Bailey Falter 33 P
Clearwater Threshers

• Class A Advanced | Florida State League
• MLB Parent Club: Philadelphia Phillies

• Status: Active
• Full Name: Bailey Falter
• Age: 21 (April 24, 1997)
• Birthplace: Chino Hills, CA
• Bats/Throws: R/L Ht: 6' 4" Wt: 175
• Draft: Round 5 (2015, PHI)
• School: Chino Hills, CA

 

[ulmax]

looks like he is a 5th round HS guy...but hes prob ready for AA which is what the mariners would care about
to maybe pitch with

McCoughan
<<falter>> LHP
bannister
misiewicz...LHP
Ljay newsome

 

[ulmax]

rotoworld

MLB Power Rankings: Week 26


1. Boston Red Sox


Record: 106-51


Last Week: 1

The Red Sox beat the Orioles 6-2 on Monday night at Fenway Park to set a new all-time franchise record for wins in a single season and clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Nathan Eovaldi started that game and racked up a season-high 10 strikeouts over five innings of one-run ball. The 28-year-old right-hander, who was acquired from the Rays on July 25 for pitching prospect Jalen Beeks, has registered a 3.46 ERA and 44/12 K/BB ratio over 52 innings in a Red Sox uniform and could be asked to make a start in the upcoming ALDS. Boston will open postseason play next Friday at Fenway Park against either the Yankees or A’s.







13. Seattle Mariners


Record: 85-71


Last Week: 13


Seattle fell 7-3 to Oakland on Monday night and had to watch as the Athletics celebrated the clinching of a postseason berth at Safeco Field. The Mariners had an 11-game lead on the A’s in the American League Wild Card standings back on June 15, but they went 10-13 in July, 12-16 in August, and are 10-11 so far in September. The longest active postseason drought in Major League Baseball will continue for a 17th year. That’s also the longest active postseason drought across the four major sports in North America. But, hey, our sincere congratulations go out to longtime Mariners ace Felix Hernandez for officially becoming a United States citizen.