Official 2025 Draft Talk Thread

[Sharkonabicycle]

I am sick and tired of hearing " Imagine having Carter and Murphy on the same line" IT WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED PERIOD!

Had the Hawks Drafted Carter then you Removed BOTH Witherspoon and Murphy. They WOULD NOT have drafted Murphy after Drafting Carter the Year before AND they wouldnt have Witherspoon. It's that simple in NO WORLD would the Hawks have both Carter and Murphy.


So the question is this are you going to cry about NOT having Carter and ONLY Carter ignore Murphy and Witherspoons promise? Sorry but I would MUCH RATHER have Murphy and Witherspoon over just Carter.

Fine, so be it... either way Seattle needed DL then, AND OL. There were far more important positions Seattle had holes at (so much that we had to surrender a 2nd rounder to PARTIALLY fix it) than another fuckin' DB.

You say there's no way we would've taken Murphy... you realize the defense Carroll was trying to run and Mac does want to run, right? Those DL shift all over.. we could've still taken Murphy (who at this point is a glorified nose tackle). Again, Reed is not getting younger, Williams is 31+ (and just signed his last 'big' contract)... these guys are towards the end of their career. Replenish the trenches while you have the picks.

I'm sorry but drafting WRs, TEs, DBs, etc. with top 5 ammo is just beyond retarded. A lot of top 5-10 WRs/DBs make it to a Super Bowl on the team they weren't drafted by.

At least we didn't fuck up Charles Cross (who should've been a pro bowler).

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I am sick and tired of hearing " Imagine having Carter and Murphy on the same line" IT WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED PERIOD!

Had the Hawks Drafted Carter then you Removed BOTH Witherspoon and Murphy. They WOULD NOT have drafted Murphy after Drafting Carter the Year before AND they wouldnt have Witherspoon. It's that simple in NO WORLD would the Hawks have both Carter and Murphy.


So the question is this are you going to cry about NOT having Carter and ONLY Carter ignore Murphy and Witherspoons promise? Sorry but I would MUCH RATHER have Murphy and Witherspoon over just Carter.

If LW wasn't here than yes I could see Carter and Murphy

 

[Screamin12th]

Do we have carter and Jared verse instead
ID take that 100 times out of 100

I doubt it as our scouting is shit.

 

[MrS]

I doubt it as our scouting is shit.

Hence why they took a 5'9 corner top 5

 

[Screamin12th]

Hence why they took a 5'9 corner top 5

Yes they got lucky with Witherspoon who is a 2 year player with 2 probowls.

 

[MrS]

Yes they got lucky with Witherspoon who is a 2 year player with 2 probowls.

Probowls don't mean jack shit

 

[blstoker]

Probowls don't mean jack shit

To be fair, to you anything other than your own opinion means jack shit.

 

[MrS]

To be fair, to you anything other than your own opinion means jack shit.

ID like to see more than 1 int from a top 5 pick, is that too much to ask?

 

[Screamin12th]

ID like to see more than 1 int from a top 5 pick, is that too much to ask?

How about being 2nd on the team in tackles? 2nd on the team in SOLO tackles? 4th on the team in tackles for loss? 3rd on the team in Passes defensed? Tied for 2nd on the team in FF?

Witherspoon like it or not is a damn stud at 5 foot 9 as you like to bring up. BTW he is 6 foot tall.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

How about being 2nd on the team in tackles? 2nd on the team in SOLO tackles? 4th on the team in tackles for loss? 3rd on the team in Passes defensed? Tied for 2nd on the team in FF?

Witherspoon like it or not is a damn stud at 5 foot 9 as you like to bring up. BTW he is 6 foot tall.

I mean let me say, Witherspoon turned out to be a good DB and is impactful to this team. My point was, a good DT is worth more than a good DB. Same thing with OL. A good OT is worth more than a good WR or TE.

It's just always been a saying in the NFL. Get a QB, Protect the QB, get to the other QB. That's QB, OL, DL... those are the most important tried and true positions. Good DTs and OTs don't hit free agency. Good WRs and DBs? They hit free agency routinely.

 

[Screamin12th]

In todays NFL you have to stop the pass. You do that more often with good coverage than with sacks and pressure. Every heard of a coverage sack? yeah? ok then. Just saying is all.

Seahawks were in the top 10 in Pressuring the QB last season, but you all talk like we were dead last. There was only 8 teams that were better than the Hawks and 5 of those didnt even make the Playoffs and the Eagles were 15th, you know the team that WON the superbowl. Yes the Seahawks were better at getting pressure than the Eagles.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

In todays NFL you have to stop the pass. You do that more often with good coverage than with sacks and pressure. Every heard of a coverage sack? yeah? ok then. Just saying is all.

Seahawks were in the top 10 in Pressuring the QB last season, but you all talk like we were dead last.

Top ten in sacks also, they had more then the Eagles and a lot more then the Rams.

 

[Screamin12th]

The MAIN thing the Hawks have to do is create MORE Turnovers something they didnt do so well in 2024 and it didnt help that our QB was a turn over machine with little scoring production. Had he offset that with 30+ TD then ok but nope.

 

[JMR]

I see a lot of wisdom in another early pick for the DL in this draft. I think it was reinforced quite clearly in these playoffs the correlation between pressure and QB mistakes. You just cannot have too many good D linemen; Jarran Reed and Leonard Williams are also both north of 30. It's also clear to me right now that Geno Smith is going to be the QB here for at least 2 more seasons, barring some major turn of events. The Eagles did just show us that you can win in this league with an upper middle class QB as long as you've got talent up and down the roster. Jalen Hurts is limited as a passer but has now played in 2 SBs as a starting QB. I don't think we are leaps and bounds behind Philly on roster talent, but the biggest differences are on both lines.

 

[MrS]

I see a lot of wisdom in another early pick for the DL in this draft. I think it was reinforced quite clearly in these playoffs the correlation between pressure and QB mistakes. You just cannot have too many good D linemen; Jarran Reed and Leonard Williams are also both north of 30. It's also clear to me right now that Geno Smith is going to be the QB here for at least 2 more seasons, barring some major turn of events. The Eagles did just show us that you can win in this league with an upper middle class QB as long as you've got talent up and down the roster. Jalen Hurts is limited as a passer but has now played in 2 SBs as a starting QB. I don't think we are leaps and bounds behind Philly on roster talent, but the biggest differences are on both lines.

Kenneth grant would be a Nice pick

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Kenneth grant would be a Nice pick

I imagine both the Michigan DTs will be off the board by the time we pick. I'm rooting for Booker. Immediate day 1 starting LG and the guy is a behemoth. What did we just learn from the Super Bowl? Find an offensive line that's huge.

Cross, Booker, TBD (maybe Olu), Haynes, and HOPEFULLY Lucas... now that's an OL.

And if Haynes is a little undersized (although he's not, 6'3" and nearly 320 lbs - dunno why everyone is using that as an excuse for why he wasn't starting) that's fine. You don't need a monster at right guard. Chris Gray was perfectly fine. We spent an early 3rd on him though and the guy has played right guard since he was a sperm. Get him the fuck out there. I know Bradford is a physical freak, but there's a problem... he's not any good, lol. And it didn't help Haynes had complete instability at RT and C... but his technique is good.

It's absolutely ridiculous he was inactive (while healthy) in some games lasts year. Grubb was out of his fuckin' mind. No wonder he was nearly a mid season firing. What a bust pickup. Thankfully Kubiak is here and actually knows what the NFL is.

 

[MrS]

I imagine both the Michigan DTs will be off the board by the time we pick.

Graham will be taken top 5, grant is likely going to be there at 18 based on current Mocks. That could change if he blows up the combine

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Graham will be taken top 5, grant is likely going to be there at 18 based on current Mocks. That could change if he blows up the combine

Hmm perhaps. Either way, I want line. Don't care whether it's OL or DL. Give me lineman. I'm perfectly fine with Geno for another couple years (yes you heard me, COUPLE). And Geno is going to improve with Kubiak.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Geno for 2 more years? Maybe. One year for sure and maybe two. Some in the media suspect that the Seahawks will draft a QB this season in the second or third round to develop. Could happen. IDK if I'm crazy about that idea. I really think it's unlikely to find a gem this draft and prefer waiting until next year but then I'm not sure what that class looks like either and support the idea of drafting QBs regularly like the Packers have done, so I'm going to roll with whatever for now. I'll still want the team to take the big swing and move up to land a highly rank QB if and when the opportunity arises. Geno is getting older and getting expensive at the same time and no good alternatives on the horizon at all. It is what I feared when they signed Geno to that multiple year contract and ignore the position in the drafts following that signing.
It was fun seeing a team win the superbowl with a sort of Pete Carrol approach- good D and run the ball no matter if they gain or don't gain yards. However lets keep in mind the Chiefs just went to 5 superbowls the last 6 years behind the play of their QB (won 3 times) and before that the Patriots had even a longer run behind their QB. Hard to keep a good roster together for long, so winning a superbowl behind a great defense and a run game is hard to sustain for more then a couple of years if that. Still it is obvious that a superbowl can be won in this fashion, so there is that, but finding the right QB can lead to multiple superbowls ( still need a decent roster, just doesn't have to be as strong as doing it the other way).

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Graham will be taken top 5, grant is likely going to be there at 18 based on current Mocks. That could change if he blows up the combine

Currently yes, but I hear him brought up a lot with the media so think his stock is rising and yes a good combine would be another lift in the rankings so to speak.