Official 2025 Draft Talk Thread

[HaroldSeattle]

No team was willing to take Wilson round one, Carroll said no.
Schneider has no breaks on him now, he could make a disaster of a move and spend a first on a QB that isn't being taken by any other team in round 1 for real this time.

Think you have some things wrong. JS wanted to draft Wilson in round 2 not round 1. Pete wanted Bobby Wagner with that pick and felt Wilson would last till the next round and he did. However it was a close call because Andy Reid near took Wilson ahead of the Seahawk. So it worked out but could have blown up in their face and maybe the Seahawks could have reversed the order and taken Wilson round 2 and draft Wagner round 3. Who knows.

 

[Screamin12th]

So yah, just draft BPA at those positions. That's where I'm at.

I have always been a BPA guy.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Geno for 2 more years? Maybe. One year for sure and maybe two. Some in the media suspect that the Seahawks will draft a QB this season in the second or third round to develop. Could happen. IDK if I'm crazy about that idea. I really think it's unlikely to find a gem this draft and prefer waiting until next year but then I'm not sure what that class looks like either and support the idea of drafting QBs regularly like the Packers have done, so I'm going to roll with whatever for now. I'll still want the team to take the big swing and move up to land a highly rank QB if and when the opportunity arises. Geno is getting older and getting expensive at the same time and no good alternatives on the horizon at all. It is what I feared when they signed Geno to that multiple year contract and ignore the position in the drafts following that signing.
It was fun seeing a team win the superbowl with a sort of Pete Carrol approach- good D and run the ball no matter if they gain or don't gain yards. However lets keep in mind the Chiefs just went to 5 superbowls the last 6 years behind the play of their QB (won 3 times) and before that the Patriots had even a longer run behind their QB. Hard to keep a good roster together for long, so winning a superbowl behind a great defense and a run game is hard to sustain for more then a couple of years if that. Still it is obvious that a superbowl can be won in this fashion, so there is that, but finding the right QB can lead to multiple superbowls ( still need a decent roster, just doesn't have to be as strong as doing it the other way).

There's a couple descent QB prospects that can be had in the 2nd or 3rd round. The hopes to landing one of those top talents in next years draft won't happen unless something disastrous happens.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

There's a couple descent QB prospects that can be had in the 2nd or 3rd round. The hopes to landing one of those top talents in next years draft won't happen unless something disastrous happens.

They have to move up certainly and that will cost. Or they can settle for long shots.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Pff latest mock has seahawks taking jaxson dart at 18, that would be a fireable offense

Oh God no. He can be had in the 2nd round possibly 3rd round if the Rams don't jump on him in the 2nd.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

They have to move up certainly and that will cost. Or they can settle for long shots.

Moving from 16-19 all the way to top 5 is a God father type offer. You're looking at 3 firsts to make that deal.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Moving from 16-19 all the way to top 5 is a God father type offer. You're looking at 3 firsts to make that deal.

Top 5 is out of reach most likely but top 10 is feasible. Last year Penix lasted until pick 8, Herbert was pick 6, Mahomes pick 10, Allen was pick 7. So just need a good QB class before making the move.

 

[Screamin12th]

Oh God no. He can be had in the 2nd round possibly 3rd round if the Rams don't jump on him in the 2nd.

The lack of choices in this years draft at QB will vault him up . He wont be there after the 2nd round. Thankfully i just dont see us drafting a QB BUT if we did Dart would be my choice but i hope to god it's not in the first round.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Top 5 is out of reach most likely but top 10 is feasible. Last year Penix lasted until pick 8, Herbert was pick 6, Mahomes pick 10, Allen was pick 7. So just need a good QB class before making the move.

And that's the main question...when is the good QB class gonna happen? No one really knows and it could be several years away which is why drafting a young QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounder now would be wise to get him ready for next season.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

The lack of choices in this years draft at QB will vault him up . He wont be there after the 2nd round. Thankfully i just dont see us drafting a QB BUT if we did Dart would be my choice but i hope to god it's not in the first round.

I believe Seattle goes o-line first round and if none are projected first rounders they'll add to the D-line. I do like Dart and a couple of mocks have the Rams scooping him up in the 2nd so yes I too believe he'll be gone by round 2. Dillion Gabriel I do believe can be had in the 3rd round. I like what he brings and think he can be a better than Bo Nix coming out of Oregon.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

And that's the main question...when is the good QB class gonna happen? No one really knows and it could be several years away which is why drafting a young QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounder now would be wise to get him ready for next season.

I do think it's a good idea to take cheap flyers on QBs that have flaws but also traits that show promise, while you search for that franchise QB that could become more. This class I'd address the trenches early rounds and any other holes THEN take a flyer on a QB simply because it's hard to see any QBs after the top two (who aren't that promising) that stand out trait wise above the crowd, so fill the other important positions then take that flyer.
When is the next good QB class? Hard to say isn't it, which is why when a good class comes along the team needs to make a move for a QB, no guarantees of course, but it's the smart move. None of this "we need to fill out the roster first" stuff, that line of thought brought the team to this dilemma, rosters are a constant churn of talent, with contract running out, injuries and players simply being under performers. So if the opportunity arrives to grab a top QB prospect (which is really rare) it's plum foolish to pass on it.

 

[MrS]

Next years class is far more promising than the current class, i would wait and potentially build capital for a trade up.
If all the DL and OL are gone by 18 i would be OK with a trade down if it can net us future picks

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I still think if Seattle goes QB we're going Ewers. He has a release eerily similar to Rodgers and Schneider did mention him at one point (briefly).

He would definitely need to sit for a year or two to develop his footwork/route reading, so Smith isn't going anywhere. Kubiak could prob. develop him though.

 

[Screamin12th]

I still think if Seattle goes QB we're going Ewers. He has a release eerily similar to Rodgers and Schneider did mention him at one point (briefly).

He would definitely need to sit for a year or two to develop his footwork/route reading, so Smith isn't going anywhere. Kubiak could prob. develop him though.

Ewers hurt himself and his draft stock this past year. Had he continued his rise from the season before he might be talked about as a top QB pick but his game in some area's regressed. He shows flashes but so do some other QB's that will make you pause, Like Howard. It's like would you want ewers or Howard now? Where is had he continued his rise he might be there with Ward and Sanders. Hell Ewers dropped 2 spots below Dart in the 2025 Draft QB rankings when going into the 2024 season they were talking him up like a sure fire day one pick.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I do think it's a good idea to take cheap flyers on QBs that have flaws but also traits that show promise, while you search for that franchise QB that could become more. This class I'd address the trenches early rounds and any other holes THEN take a flyer on a QB simply because it's hard to see any QBs after the top two (who aren't that promising) that stand out trait wise above the crowd, so fill the other important positions then take that flyer.
When is the next good QB class? Hard to say isn't it, which is why when a good class comes along the team needs to make a move for a QB, no guarantees of course, but it's the smart move. None of this "we need to fill out the roster first" stuff, that line of thought brought the team to this dilemma, rosters are a constant churn of talent, with contract running out, injuries and players simply being under performers. So if the opportunity arrives to grab a top QB prospect (which is really rare) it's plum foolish to pass on it.

In order to get one of those top QB prospects the season would need to implode from the beginning. As it stands with Geno at QB Seattle will be in the far late teens or further back if they make the playoffs. Like I said, you'd need a God father offer to make that type of move.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

In order to get one of those top QB prospects the season would need to implode from the beginning. As it stands with Geno at QB Seattle will be in the far late teens or further back if they make the playoffs. Like I said, you'd need a God father offer to make that type of move.

Chiefs trade their first (pick 27) next year first (which would also be late) and a third to move to the 10 pick. Not cheap but palatable.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Chiefs trade their first (pick 27) next year first (which would also be late) and a third to move to the 10 pick. Not cheap but palatable.

That was 10yrs ago getting Maholmes. The cost now would be more.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

That was 10yrs ago getting Maholmes. The cost now would be more.

Been that long since anyone move up that far I think. Cost is dependent how how good a horse trader the GM is. Players could be included, taking on bad contracts (if your in a position to do so) could play a part, swapping picks. Course I don't think horse trading is JS forte.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Been that long since anyone move up that far I think. Cost is dependent how how good a horse trader the GM is. Players could be included, taking on bad contracts (if your in a position to do so) could play a part, swapping picks. Course I don't think horse trading is JS forte.

If may not be his forte but GM's being on the hot seat for a year or two will make desperate trades. I feel JS is a bit on the hot seat due to the o-lines failures so I wouldn't put it past him to make a God father type trade and prays it works out.

 

[Screamin12th]

Has there been any trades other than Wilsons where you felt JS got the better side of the deal? No not many. I always feel like JS tend to give up more and get less than most teams GM's.