NFL MVP

[Jordan23]

I've heard that he's pretty good running with the ball too.

Yeah but takes a lot more than that to win MVP.

 

[Wazmankg]

Both would be worse off.

Hard to imagine how the Niners would be worse off with Lamar given the weapons on that offense, but your opinion is as valid as mine.

 

[eaglesnut]

Both would be worse off.

Pffft. Yeah lamar is too retarded to use deebo, mccaffrey and the rest of the gang. Kittle would probably have 1200 yards. The offense is perfect for any QB to walk into.

Purdy would really be an MVP if he could do it with the bunch in Baltimore.

 

[eaglesnut]

Hard to imagine how the Niners would be worse off with Lamar given the weapons on that offense, but your opinion is as valid as mine.

Invalid thinking doesn't produce valid opinions.

 

[Wazmankg]

Yeah but takes a lot more than that to win MVP.

I thought the fact that he'll probably have another 1000 yards rushing might be worth mentioning, also the pressure that puts on the entire defense.

 

[Wazmankg]

Invalid thinking doesn't produce valid opinions.

... if you're referring to mine, this is where you explain why it's invalid.

 

[shopson67]

I thought the fact that he'll probably have another 1000 yards rushing might be worth mentioning, also the pressure that puts on the entire defense.

I don't know that he'll hit that number this year. He's at 741 with 3 games left.

 

[Wazmankg]

I don't know that he'll hit that number this year. He's at 741 with 3 games left.

Ok, so 900ish if his average holds.

 

[fastforward]

Hard to imagine how the Niners would be worse off with Lamar given the weapons on that offense, but your opinion is as valid as mine.

The 49ers offense is more about quick decisions, precision, and timing than the Ravens offense. Jackson's strengths are his physicality and letting plays develop. It's not a natural mesh and changing the system to accommodate Jackson might not suit the skill players already there. It would be a similar story in Baltimore. Letting plays develop and running more often probably wouldn't suit Purdy and a more technical offense might not suit their current skill players. It's not a slur on anyone's skills or abilities.

 

[eaglesnut]

... if you're referring to mine, this is where you explain why it's invalid.

Yours is clearly valid. It's similar to mine.

 

[Wazmankg]

The 49ers offense is more about quick decisions, precision, and timing than the Ravens offense. Jackson's strengths are his physicality and letting plays develop. It's not a natural mesh and changing the system to accommodate Jackson might not suit the skill players already there. It would be a similar story in Baltimore. Letting plays develop and running more often probably wouldn't suit Purdy and a more technical offense might not suit their current skill players. It's not a slur on anyone's skills or abilities.

We have different way of looking at it I guess because I think it's the players who make plays and an offense successful, not schemes or offense styles. I don't think it would be a problem for Lamar to mesh with the likes of CMC, Deebo, Kittle & Aiyuk as options.

 

[shopson67]

We have different way of looking at it I guess because I think that players make plays, not schemes and styles. I don't think there would be a problem for Lamar to mesh with the likes of CMC, Deebo, Kittle & Aiyuk as options.

...and Shanahan would have no problem adjusting to Lamar as his QB (and Monken with Purdy). Can't magically turn the Ravens RB mash unit and questionable WR corps into bigger threats than they are though.

 

[wood20ks]

McCaffrey.........Purdy.......McCaffrey without a doubt.

Purdy,not taking anything away from him,but do you guys think he could go to another team and automatically make them better??

We all know CMC had put up big nummbers for Carolina,but could BP do the same for other teams....??

Ask yourselves who would rather have for your own team:

Lamaar or BP??
Mahomes or BP??
Hurts or BP??
Dak or BP??
Josh Allen or BP??
Tua or BP??
Joe Burrow or BP??
CJ or BP??(actually its a fair question)
Herbert or BP??
Justin Fields or BP??( fair question)
Trevor Lawrence or BP??
Kirk Cousins or BP??
Staff or Purdy??

Out of those 13 qbs you could say all 13 or atleast 11 of them you would take over BP.........
BP would not raise those team level at all,but the 9ers would not miss a beat with those qbs ......

THen ask yourself how many rbs you would take over CMC......the answer is zero.

That should give you who the mvp award should go to.......

 

[broncosmitty]

Glad to see the board has came to its senses and realized it’s Lamar’s award to lose.

 

[wood20ks]

The 49ers offense is more about quick decisions, precision, and timing than the Ravens offense. Jackson's strengths are his physicality and letting plays develop. It's not a natural mesh and changing the system to accommodate Jackson might not suit the skill players already there. It would be a similar story in Baltimore. Letting plays develop and running more often probably wouldn't suit Purdy and a more technical offense might not suit their current skill players. It's not a slur on anyone's skills or abilities.

I think with Lamaar on that team,wrs may even be a little more open for the fact of LJs ability to run.....Purdy is not running, defenses know this

 

[wood20ks]

Pffft. Yeah lamar is too retarded to use deebo, mccaffrey and the rest of the gang. Kittle would probably have 1200 yards. The offense is perfect for any QB to walk into.

Purdy would really be an MVP if he could do it with the bunch in Baltimore.

I like 3/4s of your post,but,Lamaar has Flowers and an old man in Beckham to throw to......Agholor??
Mark Andrews is his go to guy as much as Kelce is/was to Mahomes.....

 

[fastforward]

I think with Lamaar on that team,wrs may even be a little more open for the fact of LJs ability to run.....Purdy is not running, defenses know this

Jackson is a high quality QB. Shanahan is a top quality offensive coach. The other players are high quality. Doesn't mean it would all mesh. Dream teams fall apart. Has anyone ever praised Jackson for his ability to play to his teammates' strengths? Personally i'm not convinced he would raise what is already a very high bar. Being consistently good but unspectacular is an underrated trait.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

McCaffrey.........Purdy.......McCaffrey without a doubt.

Purdy,not taking anything away from him,but do you guys think he could go to another team and automatically make them better??

We all know CMC had put up big nummbers for Carolina,but could BP do the same for other teams....??

Ask yourselves who would rather have for your own team:

Lamaar or BP??
Mahomes or BP??
Hurts or BP??
Dak or BP??
Josh Allen or BP??
Tua or BP??
Joe Burrow or BP??
CJ or BP??(actually its a fair question)
Herbert or BP??
Justin Fields or BP??( fair question)
Trevor Lawrence or BP??
Kirk Cousins or BP??
Staff or Purdy??

Out of those 13 qbs you could say all 13 or atleast 11 of them you would take over BP.........
BP would not raise those team level at all,but the 9ers would not miss a beat with those qbs ......

THen ask yourself how many rbs you would take over CMC......the answer is zero.

That should give you who the mvp award should go to.......

while I personally agree with this.
It isnt the world we live in.
Believe the question is who we think will win it.
Not who should win it.
because if that were the case. QBs would win it a lot less.

 

[wood20ks]

Jackson is a high quality QB. Shanahan is a top quality offensive coach. The other players are high quality. Doesn't mean it would all mesh. Dream teams fall apart. Has anyone ever praised Jackson for his ability to play to his teammates' strengths? Personally i'm not convinced he would raise what is already a very high bar. Being consistently good but unspectacular is an underrated trait.

Very true I dont tbhink LJ could raise that teams level when they are already at a top level.....but BP sure as ith not raising Baltimores level.....

 

[wood20ks]

while I personally agree with this.
It isnt the world we live in.
Believe the question is who we think will win it.
Not who should win it.
because if that were the case. QBs would win it a lot less.

I will go with that,but it says mvp,I think CMC has it myself.....