NFL MVP update

[broncosmitty]

I have no problem with Matt Ryan. Just don't find him winning the division with what he's surrounded with as impressive.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

He is the best player. By quite a bit.

And Brees is a selfish stat hound.

You just opened the can of worms

This guy says Rodgers is the biggest star padder in the game

 

[sonnyblack65]

Those losses are all to teams .500 or better. I do t think that's going to factor much. What with his garbage defense and lack of a running game.

They avg 6 yards a rush tonight, but opted not to run the ball. Ryan and Atl put up 35 points in first half and then just ran the ball second half. They could have put up 60 if they wanted and Ryan with 7 tds instead of only 4

 

[sonnyblack65]

I have no problem with Matt Ryan. Just don't find him winning the division with what he's surrounded with as impressive.

I'll bet you another AV bet that At goes further than GB and Atl hasn't been good in the playoffs

 

[LambeauLegs]

The Packers have fared better without Rodgers than the Raiders did without Carr today.

in a season where Rodgers missed one game from concussion the Packers lost that game to the Lions

The year he missed 7 or 8 games with the broken collar bone they needed Rodgers to come back the last game of the year to beat Chicago in week 17 to make the playoffs with a record of 8-7-1. The games he did not play they won one and tied one and lost the rest. So until Carr misses 7 or 8 games it is hard to make that comparison

 

[broncosmitty]

Rodgers is just as selfish as Brees.

Okay.

Why? Because he dives for first downs?

Brees keeps passing when games are already decided. In wins just as much as losses. That's how he sets records. Meaningless yards and meaningless scores.

If he played baseball he's lead the league every year in solo homers.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Brady is gone 4 games and they go 3 -1 so I guess it does not matter much if he is not on the team so must not be all that valuable

I remember Matt Flynn filling in for Rodgers 1 game and throwing 6 tds not bad

 

[Earl Stevens]

No, you take away Carr and put in Matt fucking McGloin and they look like the worst team in the NFL

Put McGloin in for Rodgers and that team is worse.

That is the point you seem to miss.

Put Carr on the Packers and that team is watching the playoffs from home

It's also because they lost Carr.

And the Packers would miss the playoffs with Carr? Man I'm not even gonna touch these bullshit make-believe arguments.

 

[Earl Stevens]

Okay.

Why? Because he dives for first downs?

Brees keeps passing when games are already decided. In wins just as much as losses. That's how he sets records. Meaningless yards and meaningless scores.

If he played baseball he's lead the league every year in solo homers.

Why is Brees selfish but Rodgers isn't?

 

[LambeauLegs]

What is the Packers record without Rodgers with a QB not named Scott Tolzien? I'll be waiting.

0-2 with Matt Flynn

Oh wait correction 1 - 2 with Matt FLyn as Rodgers did sit one week 17 against the Lions and lit it up so he could get the big contract with Seattle

But the Pack lost twice with FLynn when Rodgers was out against New England and Detroit when Rodgers was hurt

 

[mr.hockey4242]

It's also because they lost Carr.

And the Packers would miss the playoffs with Carr? Man I'm not even gonna touch these bullshit make-believe arguments.

It's bullshit make believe to say

A team that got into the playoffs on the final week would miss the playoffs with a worse QB?

Ok.

 

[Earl Stevens]

I have no problem with Matt Ryan. Just don't find him winning the division with what he's surrounded with as impressive.

Basically, nobody finds anything impressive unless it's done by Aaron Rodgers.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Okay.

Why? Because he dives for first downs?

Brees keeps passing when games are already decided. In wins just as much as losses. That's how he sets records. Meaningless yards and meaningless scores.

If he played baseball he's lead the league every year in solo homers.

Baseball players who hit solo homers are selfish?

 

[broncosmitty]

I'll bet you another AV bet that At goes further than GB and Atl hasn't been good in the playoffs

Green Bay has no defense or running game. (Not sure how hurt Montgomery is.)

I'm not sure Rodgers can keep this up much longer. He hasn't had a pick since the 13th of November.

 

[Earl Stevens]

It's bullshit make believe to say

A team that got into the playoffs on the final week would miss the playoffs with a worse QB?

Ok.

They got into the playoffs on the final week because for 10 weeks, Rodgers played inferior to Carr.

 

[broncosmitty]

Basically, nobody finds anything impressive unless it's done by Aaron Rodgers.

If that makes you feel better.

 

[sonnyblack65]

0-2 with Matt Flynn

Oh wait correction 1 - 2 with Matt FLyn as Rodgers did sit one week 17 against the Lions and lit it up so he could get the big contract with Seattle

But the Pack lost twice with FLynn when Rodgers was out against New England and Detroit when Rodgers was hurt

They beat Detroit with Flynns 6 Tds and almost beat NE at Gillete which hardly happens best HFA so 1-1

 

[mr.hockey4242]

They got into the playoffs on the final week because for 10 weeks, Rodgers played inferior to Carr.

Rodgers played badly when he lost 33-32 to Atlanta playing both QB and Rb?

You clearly have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

 

[Earl Stevens]

0-2 with Matt Flynn

Oh wait correction 1 - 2 with Matt FLyn as Rodgers did sit one week 17 against the Lions and lit it up so he could get the big contract with Seattle

But the Pack lost twice with FLynn when Rodgers was out against New England and Detroit when Rodgers was hurt

0-2? Did they not win in Dallas? Flynn actually kept their playoff hopes alive one year. Did they not drop 48 on the Lions one year? Did they not play the Pats well in NE during their SB year?

 

[sonnyblack65]

Green Bay has no defense or running game. (Not sure how hurt Montgomery is.)

I'm not sure Rodgers can keep this up much longer. He hasn't had a pick since the 13th of November.

You do know that they had the no#1 rushing D for awhile? Brady hasn't thrown a pick on the road since last year and holds the all time record with over 350, much easier now that they changed the contact rules because of Peyton and Polian bitching about TY Law and his contact down the field. I still have Ryan as the guy this year almost 5k yards, less throws TD/pass ratio best almost 10 yards a pass