NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[The Q]

Well, the player (Lockett) has no trade value really…

So maybe it is a lower pick.

But the value of the trade isn’t a pick and a player. It is a pick and a solid vet who could help a contender, but is also making too much money.

If Lockett has no trade value, then this is the perfect swap trade lol

 

[shopson67]

I put in 2 weeks ago to have tomorrow off for MLB opening day and the Yankees game is postponed.

We have tickets for the local AAA team next Saturday, just waiting for the in coming storm system lol. I've been to a lot of early season games, including ones that start in short sleeve weather and end with snow falling. The wonders of Western NY weather lol.

 

[shopson67]

I would think Lockett would be expendable because of his age.

But I also don’t think he has much, if any trade value because of his salary.

Maybe Lockett + a 2nd for Baker?

Sound reasonable?

Lockett has 31.2M in dead cap, no way he's traded.

 

[dtgold88]

It’s a very expensive backup plan, unless the think Watson is getting suspended for the e entire year

yes and no. among watson, Baker and Brissett, I'm pretty sure all 3 combined account for under $35 mil on the cap. Might be under $25 mil.

Browns are among the top in cap space even while paying Baker.

 

[dtgold88]

good news. Feel happy for Jose and the Tribe.

Very reasonable deal to. He def. could have gotten 30M+ on the open market each year.

cool to get him signed up at a reasonable amount and make sure he is in Cleveland for 7 more years total.....

Total of Jose's contract now: 7 years- 150 million.....about 21.5 per year.

Really might be one of the few for whom it was not all about the money. No doubt he'd have gotten more if he waited. Have heard he pretty much told his agent he wants to stay and get it done.

 

[dtgold88]

That is significantly less than what I thought he would get.

Did he give the Tribe a discount, or are baseball contracts down this year?

Might be both...for sure he got less than he would have if he played well and waited it out (though still had this year and next before FA). Pretty sure at 29 a little older than some others getting recent megadeals. Might not have been too much lower in amount/year, but seems many of his caliber get at least 8-10 years.

 

[The Q]

yes and no. among watson, Baker and Brissett, I'm pretty sure all 3 combined account for under $35 mil on the cap. Might be under $25 mil.

Browns are among the top in cap space even while paying Baker.

Baker alone is 18m isn’t he?

 

[Heatles84]

Seattle is one of the few places where Kap would feel welcome by the fan base.

Would Kap feel welcome- for example- in Texas? lol....uhhh no.

the woke hell hole that is the pacific northwest? They would love him and his pig socks.

Miami and Dallas are the two destinations (maybe Houston as well) that there would likely be riots if he was signed. Don't want to speak for Cleveland, but I'm sure they wouldn't be happy either.

 

[trojanfan12]

Really might be one of the few for whom it was not all about the money. No doubt he'd have gotten more if he waited. Have heard he pretty much told his agent he wants to stay and get it done.

Doesn't matter what the Indians or anyone else does...Dave Roberts has guaranteed a World Series win for the Dodgers...the rest of y'all are playing for 2nd. Belee Dat!!

 

[fightinfunbags]

Doesn't matter what the Indians or anyone else does...Dave Roberts has guaranteed a World Series win for the Dodgers...the rest of y'all are playing for 2nd. Belee Dat!!

Excited the Phils did what they did but you’re right. It’s the Dodgers world and the rest of us are just living in it.

 

[bksballer89]

Doesn't matter what the Indians or anyone else does...Dave Roberts has guaranteed a World Series win for the Dodgers...the rest of y'all are playing for 2nd. Belee Dat!!

Do you agree @ChiefsLakers67

 

[trojanfan12]

Excited the Phils did what they did but you’re right. It’s the Dodgers world and the rest of us are just living in it.

We'll see. That's what folks said last year, but someone forgot to tell the Braves.

 

[dtgold88]

Baker alone is 18m isn’t he?

He is. Watson salary for 2022 is $1 mil. Cap number might be higher but pretty sure not much more than $10 mil.

 

[Black Adam]

Do you agree @ChiefsLakers67

Lol like I follow baseball...and you KNOW this...

 

[trojanfan12]

Hey...any of y'all watching that show From?

 

[WiggyRuss]

Excited the Phils did what they did but you’re right. It’s the Dodgers world and the rest of us are just living in it.

Dodgers lineup is just insane.

Bullpen is really good too.

if they dont get back to the WS or win it- itll be because of their SP

Buehler is great but I dont feel like he is a knock-out sure #1 quite yet. He was great last year but hes still pretty young and has had some injury issues in the past. Urias- looks like he is going to be a very good pitcher- but again- I dont think he is a legit ace. Kershaw used to be a legit ace but has question marks at his age.

You can beat the Dodgers if you can get to their SP and have good SP yourself- wont be easy but losing Bauer, and Kershaw aging leaves the door open slighty for the Braves or Brewers- or maybe even the Padres or Giants or Phillies.

Phillies have a helluva lineup adding Castellanos and Schwarber but that defense is just BRUTAL. Nola and Wheeler is a nice 1-2 punch though. Suarez is an interesting wild card- he was nails last year.

Brewers are legit. That rotation is awesome and they have the best closer in baseball. With Yelich regressing their hitting isnt elite though by any means.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Brewers need a legit 1B bad. They need Yelich to be a lot better. If they got those 2 things though- thats a very good team. Hader and Williams at the back end is awesome.

Atlanta has an amazing pen. They have some hitting too once Acuna comes back. They need Riley to stay at or close to his level from last year though. Need Rosario to continue to hit. Be good for them if asshole OZuna gets back to some kind of form.

Dodgers are great but I think the Brewers and Bravs are very good too.

That Dodgers lineup is just incredible though. Its a freaking fantasy baseball lineup.

 

[WiggyRuss]

AL has some depth- but im not sure if there is a truly elite team in the AL.

Blue Jays might be the closest to elite. Their lineup is almost as good as the Dodgers. Their pen is kinda weak though. WEll see how GAusman and Berrios do in the AL East.....

Yanks are good of course- but I after Cole I dont really like their rotation much. ITs actually pretty bad. I dont have a ton of faith in Montgomery or Sevirino. Maybe they make a deal for BAuer - if Bauer gets reinstated.

Red Sox rotation sucks- even if Sale comes back in June- i still dont like it.....Story was a nice pickup though at 2nd. Devers, Boagertes, Story is a nice core-- rest of their hitting is pretty ordinary though.

Astros have taken a step back. McCullers is hurt- again. A lot rides on verlander. Correa is gone. They need Bregman to become elite again in the worst way.

I like what the Mariners have put together actually- a little bit of a dark horse to some extent---- but they are solid. Julio Rodriguez is going to be so good. Him and Kelenic are an amazing young duo in the OF. Their pen is really nice too- esp. if Giles gets back at some point.

Rays need some hitting if you ask me- unless Franco can immediately be a super star- which maybe he can be. They need Lowe to repeat what he did last year. Need Josh Lowe to be the real deal....I dont love their SP---- when healthy- Mclanahan, Kluber, Baz, Rasummussen is okay- but they dont have a true #1- not even really close unless McClanahan grows up fast.

White Sox and Blue Jays are prob. the best AL teams. I love Koepechs potential. Losing Crochet hurts since I thought his potential was off the charts and had game changing reliever or starter written all over him. His stuff is nasty but hes gone for the long term. Giolito is an ace- legit. Legit ace closer. 2nd best lineup in the AL to the Blue Jays. Full years of Robert and Eloy. Vaughn is a great long term guy. Grandal one of the best hitting catchers.

White Sox and Blue Jays really dont have weaknesses. Maybe the Blue Jays pen is a little weak.

My Guardians just dont have the hitting. I really like the rotation. Bieber is prob. the best pitcher in the AL. Id take him over Cole all day. Clause is an elite closer. Got Jose of course who is one of the best position players in baseball.....but no hitting depth. Plesac, Civale, Quintrell are all solid young arms. Indians have a ton of other young arms on the horizon and some young hitting talent--- but its a year or two away. Guardians need a legit 1B and a legit corner outfielder. If they had that- id feel very good about them- but they just dont. They have like 4 dependable major league hitters- the rest are just question marks. Naylor may come through. Like Kwan' potential and some people love Kwan's bat--- but they are without a doubt question marks.

The Tigers have elite young talent in the rotation in Manning, Skubal, Mize. Erod was a nice signing. Torkelson is going to be great. Greene is hurt but will be up by June at the latest. They just need time for Manning, SKubal and Mize to establish themselves. Manning, SKubal, Mize, Greene, Torkelson is just an amazing young core. All of them former top of the top prospects- all should perform, but just not their yet.

 

[shopson67]

Dodgers lineup is just insane.

Bullpen is really good too.

if they dont get back to the WS or win it- itll be because of their SP

Buehler is great but I dont feel like he is a knock-out sure #1 quite yet. He was great last year but hes still pretty young and has had some injury issues in the past. Urias- looks like he is going to be a very good pitcher- but again- I dont think he is a legit ace. Kershaw used to be a legit ace but has question marks at his age.

You can beat the Dodgers if you can get to their SP and have good SP yourself- wont be easy but losing Bauer, and Kershaw aging leaves the door open slighty for the Braves or Brewers- or maybe even the Padres or Giants or Phillies.

Gonsolin is in the rotation and Heaney is a place holder for May until he's ready to return (just throwing off a mound recently). Bauer's status remains to be seen. Bobby Miller will start the season in AAA, and Ryan Pepiot is behind him in terms of expected MLB debuts and will also be in AAA.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Gonsolin is in the rotation and Heaney is a place holder for May until he's ready to return (just throwing off a mound recently). Bauer's status remains to be seen. Bobby Miller will start the season in AAA, and Ryan Pepiot is behind him in terms of expected MLB debuts and will also be in AAA.

I dont think Bauer pitches for the Dodgers again. They seem adamant that he will go elsewhere if/when he is reinstated

Buehler is probably an ace- hes close....I might be bitter because he fucked me in fantasy baseball a couple years ago. I just dont think he is quite there yet where you feel like you run him out for game 1 and you have a pure ace on the mound. I like Woodruff and Burnes better.

May is pretty solid. He is like a 5 and fly guy though- or at least has been so far. Heaney is kinda garbagy.

NL pitchers stats are going to decline a little bit this year now that the DH has been instituted. No more facing the pitcher a couple times a game.