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I agree if he was 30. Hell I'd agree if he was 32. But he's gonna be 38 later this year. And what would worry me about a potential trade is if they'd want Mayfield & Chubb along with picks.

There's been some talk around here about AR ending up in Denver. The local sports people are saying just to start it would take two first rounders, some later picks & LB B. Chubb.

I doubt they'd want players as much as picks from the Browns. Maybe Mayfield, but they do have an in-house QB of the future already in Jordan Love (and Jones and Dillon at RB). They may want defense and o-line more, maybe a stop gap vet at QB, which Baker wouldn't really be, given his looming extension.
 

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All fair, I guess, but thinking the only teams "in the convo" ahead of them might be KC and TB.

And, sure, Baker could regress....but so far the only time he's done that maybe ever in his like was the year Freddie was his coac

2022 Super Bowl odds to win​

Chiefs +525
Buccaneers +650
Bills +1300
Ravens +1400
Rams +1400
49ers +1400
Packers +1600
Browns +1800
Broncos +2000
Colts +2500
Saints +2500
Seahawks +2500
Dolphins +2800
Cowboys +2800
Titans +3000
Patriots +3000
Steelers +3500
Chargers +3500
Cardinals +4000
Vikings +4000
Falcons +5000
Bears +5000
Washington Football Team +5000
Panthers +6000
Raiders +7000
Giants +7500
Eagles +7500
Bengals +10000
Jaguars +10000
Jets +10000
Lions +15000
Texans +20000

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2022 Super Bowl odds to win​

Chiefs +525
Buccaneers +650
Bills +1300
Ravens +1400
Rams +1400
49ers +1400
Packers +1600
Browns +1800
Broncos +2000
Colts +2500
Saints +2500
Seahawks +2500
Dolphins +2800
Cowboys +2800
Titans +3000
Patriots +3000
Steelers +3500
Chargers +3500
Cardinals +4000
Vikings +4000
Falcons +5000
Bears +5000
Washington Football Team +5000
Panthers +6000
Raiders +7000
Giants +7500
Eagles +7500
Bengals +10000
Jaguars +10000
Jets +10000
Lions +15000
Texans +20000

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you get this is what Vegas thinks are the best odds to make the most money....for them?
 

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...and my point was that it all depends on how much your franchise values Super Bowls vs long term consistency but less likelihood of a Super Bowl appearance. After more than half a century, I would think the Browns franchise would be a little antsy. It also matters if Rodgers wants to be in Cleveland, which I don't believe he's given any indication towards. If he didn't have his issues with the front office, his best option would be to stay put IMO.

Let's make one thing clear, I don't want AR in Cleveland. He's a soon to be 38 year old HOFer at the end of his career. And whatever the Packers would want in return it would be too much.

Does AR have any leverage right now? I thought he had none. But I don't know all the details.
 

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Let's make one thing clear, I don't want AR in Cleveland. He's a soon to be 38 year old HOFer at the end of his career. And whatever the Packers would want in return it would be too much.

Does AR have any leverage right now? I thought he had none. But I don't know all the details.

He has leverage as to where he goes just by refusing to sign an extension. I think what he really wants is just to get the Packers GM fired (or is just jealous of Brady's clout).
 

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Let's make one thing clear, I don't want AR in Cleveland. He's a soon to be 38 year old HOFer at the end of his career. And whatever the Packers would want in return it would be too much.

Does AR have any leverage right now? I thought he had none. But I don't know all the details.
Top 3 for superbowl with ar
 

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you get this is what Vegas thinks are the best odds to make the most money....for them?

Spin it however you like. Somehow I think your take would be different if the list supported your opinion.

It's just a list of odds in May. How often do those odds predict the real Super Bowl teams? Probably only when the odds are overwhelming. Here's last years percentages in May:

 

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Let's make one thing clear, I don't want AR in Cleveland. He's a soon to be 38 year old HOFer at the end of his career. And whatever the Packers would want in return it would be too much.

Does AR have any leverage right now? I thought he had none. But I don't know all the details.
He has very little.
 

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Spin it however you like. Somehow I think your take would be different if the list supported your opinion.

It's just a list of odds in May. How often do those odds predict the real Super Bowl teams? Probably only when the odds are overwhelming. Here's last years percentages in May:

You originally gave us betting odds. There was no spin on my part.

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"King has the Browns as the 4th best team in the league with only the Chiefs, Buccaneers and Bills in front of them."
 

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Top 3 for superbowl with ar
not much less than that without AR.

Peter King just had the Browns as #4 in his rankings he just put out.

a lot of good additions to the defense- and an offense that is 100% back after only the first year in Stefanski's system.
 

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Kenny Mayne on his last day at ESPN

LMAO

 

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The NBA has put a statement out about why LeBron wasn't suspended.

"To clarify any remaining misconceptions, LeBron James briefly attended an outdoor event last week where participants were required to be vaccinated or return a negative test result."

"Under these circumstances and in consultation with medical experts, it was determined that his attendance did not create risks related to the spread of covid-19 and therefore no quarantine was necessary."


Has LeBron been vaccinated? He has yet to say publicly.

"Under current NBA rules, vaccinated players are permitted to engage in outside activities including their individual commercial arrangements such as sponsor appearances or add shoots."
 

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The NBA has put a statement out about why LeBron wasn't suspended.

"To clarify any remaining misconceptions, LeBron James briefly attended an outdoor event last week where participants were required to be vaccinated or return a negative test result."

"Under these circumstances and in consultation with medical experts, it was determined that his attendance did not create risks related to the spread of covid-19 and therefore no quarantine was necessary."


Has LeBron been vaccinated? He has yet to say publicly.

"Under current NBA rules, vaccinated players are permitted to engage in outside activities including their individual commercial arrangements such as sponsor appearances or add shoots."

Based on what the statement said, it appears that he has either been vaccinated or had a negative test result. He may not have said anything publicly, but I would expect that the league knows his status.
 
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